EU Withdrawal Agreement....

[enfieldspares]

For those that it may affect...here's is the link to the UK.GOV website.

https://assets.publishing.service.g...hern_Ireland_from_the_European_Union___1_.pdf

And here's the thing itself....

https://assets.publishing.service.g..._Northern_Ireland_from_the_European_Union.pdf

 

[Chasey]

So basically everything carries on as it was before except for a few minor legislative changes and we will still comply with EU laws and directives, still pay in, still support EU citizens in the UK with full benefits only now we will grant them citizenship after five years, still allow free movement of labour, still have to pay due respect to EU court decisions and just no longer have a say in whats happening.

Wow that was woth the billions this mess has cost us?

On the upside, in about 50 years ime we wont have to pay in to the EU MEPs pensions anymore. Thats something to look forward to

Reading all that was an hour of my life I wont get back

I look forward to all the Brexit voters highlighting our glorious victory's, but seeing as we didn't even resolve the fisheries issue, I am struggling to see much if anything at the moment

 

[bowji john]

RIP May

This will never come to pass

 

[Roro]

Will it pass through the house of commons though ?

 

[hoodwink]

So basically everything carries on as it was before except for a few minor legislative changes and we will still comply with EU laws and directives, still pay in, still support EU citizens in the UK with full benefits only now we will grant them citizenship after five years, still allow free movement of labour, still have to pay due respect to EU court decisions and just no longer have a say in whats happening.

Wow that was woth the billions this mess has cost us?

On the upside, in about 50 years ime we wont have to pay in to the EU MEPs pensions anymore. Thats something to look forward to

Reading all that was an hour of my life I wont get back

I look forward to all the Brexit voters highlighting our glorious victory's, but seeing as we didn't even resolve the fisheries issue, I am struggling to see much if anything at the moment

That’s no Brexit, in any way shape or terms, it was never going to be when you have people leading the negotiations that don’t believe and are having there pockets lined and their pensions sorted by the EU.

 

[deeangeo]

Hopefully the deal will be chucked out & May along with it.

 

[Chasey]

That’s no Brexit, in any way shape or terms, it was never going to be when you have people leading the negotiations that don’t believe and are having there pockets lined and their pensions sorted by the EU.

You mean people like Nigel Farage on his £73,000 a year EU pension. Not bad for 18 years of non service to the EU he hates so much

Which of course he could refuse? But guess what, he is going to keep it.

Please tell me who in May's cabinet benefit from an EU pension?

Go back and read what I wrote in 2016 on this. Nothing will change ,we will still have to follow EU rules but we will lose our influence in directing the EU

pretty sure that covers what I wrote 2 years ago

Its obvious. NOT doing it this way would mean both an economic and political disaster

 

[zambezi]

Hopefully the deal will be chucked out & May along with it.

Do the proposals do enough to retain the seemless integrity of GB? If not, surely Arlene & the DUP will kick this into touch?

 

[Monkey Spanker]

I'm sorry, but this is just all so predictable! Anything that the EU agree to will not be beneficial to us! We may as well just have agreed to disagree in the first place and not even bothered to negotiate. All this time wasted when we could have been concentrating on the reality of a hard Brexit which will surely follow. The world will not stop turning! People will still need to eat and manufacturers will still need to sell cars etc..
There is no way any of this will pass through the next stage with so much opposition. May will surely be gone very soon, at which point we need a hard line Brexiter to steer our ship back across the channel to a safe port. Only then can we begin to negotiate on a fair playing field. We voted 'OUT'!
That means right OUT, not still mostly IN!!
MS

 

[oowee]

Not looking so simple for my sailing around the med country hopping Tax haven for my pension in Malta may not be so easy either.
On the bright side EU membership savings and huge trade deals we are going to get will no doubt see my state pension increased to cover the inconvenience .

 

[timbrayford]

So Brexit has turned into Remain after all!

 

[nun_hunter]

So Brexit has turned into Remain after all!

Was it ever going to be anything else? Surely we all knew the too difficult light would come on at the enormity of the task or were some people actually naive enough to think we would leave in the way politicians suggested?

 

[Monkey Spanker]

So Brexit has turned into Remain after all!

Who could have possibly predicted that with a Prime Minister that openly voted to remain?

 

[Roro]

What do you lads (and lassys) think of europe, brexit etc ? Gonna generalise here, but most shooters in ireland would be pretty right of centre, so the uk shooters would be broadly the same ?

Personally i dislike the eu, and if it were to collapse i would be glad.

 

[Alantoo]

I'm sorry, but this is just all so predictable! Anything that the EU agree to will not be beneficial to us! We may as well just have agreed to disagree in the first place and not even bothered to negotiate. All this time wasted when we could have been concentrating on the reality of a hard Brexit which will surely follow. The world will not stop turning! People will still need to eat and manufacturers will still need to sell cars etc..
There is no way any of this will pass through the next stage with so much opposition. May will surely be gone very soon, at which point we need a hard line Brexiter to steer our ship back across the channel to a safe port. Only then can we begin to negotiate on a fair playing field. We voted 'OUT'!
That means right OUT, not still mostly IN!!
MS

Had the referendum been a landslide 100% for Brexit I would agree with you. Pour concrete in the tunnel and be done.

As it was 52%/48% I can't see how a hard line Brexit could ever have legs, with almost half of the voting population not wanting it...

We almost half voted IN, that means not right OUT, maybe half mostly OUT...

Alan

 

[Hayduke]

Is this a deer hunting related thread ?

Should I spay my dog ? She does a false pregnancy thing after season .

Collectives thoughts please .

Cheers Hayduke

 

[paultap]

The problem from the start was May herself, a "remainder" at heart and a middle manager at best. A weak leader who surrounds herself with special advisors who seem to make decisions for her which incidentally usually turn out to be wrong and often bypassing the cabinet itself. Just look at the Checkers plan!

She only became Priminister after Michael Gove pulled the rug out of Borris Johnson campaign. Like him or loath him, I am sure Johnson would have made a much better job of standing up to Brussels than May has done.

She has capitulated to Brussels from the very outset by firstly agreeing to their timetable of negotiations where they insisted on the "divorce" payment being agreed to before they were even willing to discuss anything else. Could you imagine someone like Margaret Thatcher agreeing to that?

The Irish "Hard border" issue, was and is a complete red herring, exaggerated out of all proportion to become a massive hurdle to freeing the UK from the EU, she fell for this hook, line and sinker too. The technology already exists to overcome this. Everything is an issue if you choose to make it one.

I can't see this deal currently being voted through cabinet. Labour will vote against it hoping to force a general election, the DUP will vote against it, Jacobs Rees mogs group will vote against it etc etc.

So much for May's "Brexit means Brexit" and "A bad deal is better than no deal" she is now banking on the fact that a bad deal is be better than no deal to the majority of MP's . Now we are being told that it's either this deal, no deal or No Brexit.

I am sure that burried in the text of this deal as it stands, it will be the Eu who eventually decide when we can leave this so called temporary customs union, if May survives she will almost certainly go on to barter away control of the fishing rites in our waters for a start.

The next couple of weeks will be very interesting!

 

[Klenchblaize]

As alluded to elsewhere I can't think of a more succinct summery:

We've had Fantasy Brexit now let's engage with reality.

K

 

[deeangeo]

Had the referendum been a landslide 100% for Brexit I would agree with you. Pour concrete in the tunnel and be done.

As it was 52%/48% I can't see how a hard line Brexit could ever have legs, with almost half of the voting population not wanting it...

We almost half voted IN, that means not right OUT, maybe half mostly OUT...

Alan

Nope! In a democracy the majority vote takes it.
So the vote in favour of OUT means OUT so, OUT is what the government must deliver.
No half measures.
And, no Maybe about it.

 

[jimmy milnes]

I have egg on my face....
Enfieldspares I owe you the biggest of apologies, many times in the past have I called you for criticism about our Pm but now I feel I have to fall on my sword and agree with you, she's a baffoon..
So sorry
Jimmy