FAC for DSC1

[Ajax]

Hi,
Do you require an FAC inorder to undertake the DSC1 course?

I was always under the impression you didn't so long as for the shooting test you had access to a deer calibre rifle to use "Estate/friend " and was under their supervision, I.E with them.
Is this correct or have I got this wrong?
Regards

 

[Andrew Hubbard]

I did the DSC1 without an FAC. On the day of the shooting test, I was leant an estate rifle.

 

[kimh]

Pre-Courses are available

 

[Ajax]

I did the DSC1 without an FAC. On the day of the shooting test, I was leant an estate rifle.

Thank you that was my understanding.
A friend has decided to do his DSC1 but hasn't yet got his FAC .
Wanted to double check before I do wrong by him!
Old age etc!!

 

[McKenzie]

I did the DSC1 without an FAC. On the day of the shooting test, I was leant an estate rifle.

Me too.

 

[knight82]

No FAC required but worth checking with training provider that estate rifles are available for use. Normally you’d just have to cover ammo cost.

 

[Ajax]

No FAC required but worth checking with training provider that estate rifles are available for use. Normally you’d just have to cover ammo cost.

Good call will pass that on

 

[Jh1986]

Did mine whilst still awaiting my FAC. I borrowed the course instructor's rifle.

What I would say is, if you have the opportunity to go with a friend and use their rifle, do it. Failing that, ask your fellow course members if you can try their rifle one evening before the shooting test, and use their rifle.

I only say this because, I did all my practice shooting with family & friends, without issue. I got behind the instructor's rifle and could not see the reticule at all. I said this, but was told I was not to adjust the scope as others were using it after me. I am a glasses wearer and this is unlikely to affect many people at all, but just something about that rifle scope and my eyes didn't work. Best to have that sorted before trying the test.

 

[Ajax]

His now using my rifle for exactly that reason, so hopefully he will get on with

 

[Bo Diddley]

I only say this because, I did all my practice shooting with family & friends, without issue. I got behind the instructor's rifle and could not see the reticule at all. I said this, but was told I was not to adjust the scope as others were using it after me. I am a glasses wearer and this is unlikely to affect many people at all, but just something about that rifle scope and my eyes didn't work. Best to have that sorted before trying the test.

Did you manage to pass the shooting test on that occasion? Seems like a tall order if you couldn't see the reticle...

 

[Jh1986]

Did you manage to pass the shooting test on that occasion? Seems like a tall order if you couldn't see the reticle...

No, I had 1 shot out each time. I retook it with a different rifle and passed.

 

[Dickie]

Being that many Firearms licensing dept aren't granting a fac with a deer calibre rifle there would need to be a system in place that would allow you to shoot without your own.

 

[Deerkeeper2]

Did mine whilst still awaiting my FAC. I borrowed the course instructor's rifle.

What I would say is, if you have the opportunity to go with a friend and use their rifle, do it. Failing that, ask your fellow course members if you can try their rifle one evening before the shooting test, and use their rifle.

I only say this because, I did all my practice shooting with family & friends, without issue. I got behind the instructor's rifle and could not see the reticule at all. I said this, but was told I was not to adjust the scope as others were using it after me. I am a glasses wearer and this is unlikely to affect many people at all, but just something about that rifle scope and my eyes didn't work. Best to have that sorted before trying the test.

The friend or other person on the course would need to be the holder of the sporting rights over the ground on which the assessment is being conducted in order to lend you his or her rifle if you all want to stay within the law.

 

[sy247]

Did mine whilst still awaiting my FAC. I borrowed the course instructor's rifle.

What I would say is, if you have the opportunity to go with a friend and use their rifle, do it. Failing that, ask your fellow course members if you can try their rifle one evening before the shooting test, and use their rifle.

I only say this because, I did all my practice shooting with family & friends, without issue. I got behind the instructor's rifle and could not see the reticule at all. I said this, but was told I was not to adjust the scope as others were using it after me. I am a glasses wearer and this is unlikely to affect many people at all, but just something about that rifle scope and my eyes didn't work. Best to have that sorted before trying the test.

A very valid point

 

[Buchan]

IF you do your course with the BDS, they have a loan rifle. It's sort of under the "estate rules".

Anyone doing a level one without an FAC should get in as much practice as they possible can with kind friends - ideally using the old level 1 that required an ability to put a 3 shot group in under 4"
An air rifle and a back garden is excellent prep to the basics of hold, breath control and trigger control

 

[Ajax]

Thank you all for your sound advice and help.
It isn't myself who is doing the course but a good friend and to be honest his doing well with my rifle on the range although he is struggling with the straight pull.
That said fingercrossed he will pass
Thank you all

 

[8x57]

The friend or other person on the course would need to be the holder of the sporting rights over the ground on which the assessment is being conducted in order to lend you his or her rifle if you all want to stay within the law.

I believe that BASC and BDS get around this by being approved rifle clubs with affiliation to the NRA. Some other trainers may perhaps not be quite so diligent in adhering strictly with the restrictions on borrowing a rifle.

 

[DVS1]

Being that many Firearms licensing dept aren't granting a fac with a deer calibre rifle there would need to be a system in place that would allow you to shoot without your own.

Or the Licensing Depts could adhere to the legislation rather than making up their own rules!??

 

[Dickie]

Or the Licensing Depts could adhere to the legislation rather than making up their own rules!??

No argument from me on that. Helps those selling DSC though

 

[Ajax]

Or the Licensing Depts could adhere to the legislation rather than making up their own rules!??

No argument from me on that. Helps those selling DSC though

Yes it does, got that feel of "when it suits and Show me the money"!
Shame really!!