Feeling a little let down.

[Idlemusket]

this got me thinking about a chap at work who went to Greece to get his dentures (and a holiday while he waited) for £500 , the wife had just cost me £1300 for a partial set.... anyway I just done a search for Cataract treatment cost in Romania average was £400

 

[Idlemusket]

this got me thinking about a chap at work who went to Greece to get his dentures (and a holiday while he waited) for £500 , the wife had just cost me £1300 for a partial set.... anyway I just done a search for Cataract treatment cost in Romania average was £400

 

[Fair Hill]

this got me thinking about a chap at work who went to Greece to get his dentures (and a holiday while he waited) for £500 , the wife had just cost me £1300 for a partial set.... anyway I just done a search for Cataract treatment cost in Romania average was £400

Turkey seems to be a very popular spot as well for a lot of people (who don't mind travelling) to get new shiny perfect dentures.

 

[Norfolk Horn]

I had a phone call today from my doctors to advise me that the first eye clinic I had been referred to had refused to accept my referral from my gp as they are so far behind with their list so I would now be referred to the QE which they dont know how long that would be, but probably well over 20 weeks.
Luckily my eye is ok at the moment and it's only the tear duct which sometimes blocks. Just as well I have private health care if I need it.

 

[243varmint]

There is no long waiting lists for private treatment so there is no disadvantage to UK residents for Irish people to travel and get the operation done in a private hospital.

Apologies I thought you were on about NHS hospitals.

 

[Fair Hill]

Apologies I thought you were on about NHS hospitals.

No worries, it wasn't blatantly obvious the way I worded it in all fairness.

 

[alberta boy]

Turkey seems to be a very popular spot as well for a lot of people (who don't mind travelling) to get new shiny perfect dentures.

And strangely enough , hair implants . I was in Istanbul in 2018 . There were so many men walking around with bandaged heads I had to ask a local what was going on . Apparently , Istanbul is one of the largest centers for anyone in the Middle East to get a new head of hair . By the look of it , there's a lot of bald guys in the Middle East .

AB

 

[alberta boy]

I have to admit , this thread is a bit of an eye opener . I thought that the average person in the UK received decent service from the NHS , I guess I was wrong .

AB

 

[Sonicdmb73]

Get rid of the 10 managers they have for each department , who then pay external consults to do there jobs

Simple,

Very , very simple

They are just postmen who kick it down hill till it hits the external contractors , who deal with EVERYTHING to do with the job anyway

I know coz I'm one of the contractors , it's shocking, me and my teams do there jobs for them ,as the " client" they provide absolutely no input what so ever

Get rid of these high level muppets and put the cash towards caring/fixing people

Rant over

Kjf

I have to agree.
I cannot and will not go into detail.
But I have seen it firsthand, mismanagement and obscene waste.
My Sister works in the NHS and says the same.
Things like outsourcing to “management companies”. How do they save money by transferring staff to the new company. Who then pay the staff the same wages and charge extra because they are there to make a profit.
Don’t get me wrong there are some fantastic people working in the NHS. But the system is broken and until it rewards departments that save money. I’m afraid it will not get better.

 

[User00047]

I have to admit , this thread is a bit of an eye opener . I thought that the average person in the UK received decent service from the NHS , I guess I was wrong .

AB

Actually I think the average person does receive a decent service from NHS. Not world class, and it could be much better, but pretty decent nonetheless. Of course, some of our members here haven’t seen much of the world and don’t know how lucky they are to have access to what is, relatively speaking, superb healthcare. Head on down to Central Africa and check out their “hospitals” and then complain about the service we have here.
I understand the OP’s frustration but a routine cataracts operation is not exactly top of the list of priorities right now.
I can think of several close family members who certainly wouldn’t be here right now if it weren’t for the treatment they received from NHS.
Personally I’m just grateful for what we have.

 

[Sonicdmb73]

I have to admit , this thread is a bit of an eye opener . I thought that the average person in the UK received decent service from the NHS , I guess I was wrong .

AB

I have had treatment for various reasons over the years. It has varied in standard, due mainly to “policy” changes. ie went for physio on my back six months later went back to be told that they don’t do what worked any more. Do this instead
I have had two accidents that resulted in broken bones. On both occasions I couldn’t fault my treatment. From ambulance to out patients the staff were caring and looked after me very well.

 

[Rasputin]

Actually I think the average person does receive a decent service from NHS. Not world class, and it could be much better, but pretty decent nonetheless. Of course, some of our members here haven’t seen much of the world and don’t know how lucky they are to have access to what is, relatively speaking, superb healthcare. Head on down to Central Africa and check out their “hospitals” and then complain about the service we have here.
I understand the OP’s frustration but a routine cataracts operation is not exactly top of the list of priorities right now.
I can think of several close family members who certainly wouldn’t be here right now if it weren’t for the treatment they received from NHS.
Personally I’m just grateful for what we have.

Another NHS denier. To answer an earlier post about how we fix it it’s break this mentality that the nhs is some all godly diety that must be protected at all costs. Why even bother to compare the third world who pay sod all into their systems with a developed world. Apples and oranges.

I would say losing ones site is pretty damn important considering once it’s gone it gone.

 

[eggy74]

To be fair, once you are in a hospital under the care of a consultant, the care is pretty good, not outstanding, but good. nurses can be a bit hit and miss with their treatment, but most of that is down to poor training. Getting admitted on the other hand is where it all goes wrong for the NHS trusts seem to look at patients as an expense they could well do without. Aftercare is also practically non existent.
some of you may know the phrase " the squeeky wheel gets the oil" basically, you have to make yourself heard/be a pain to get looked after
my next procedure will probably be in India or Thailand.

 

[User00047]

Another NHS denier. To answer an earlier post about how we fix it it’s break this mentality that the nhs is some all godly diety that must be protected at all costs. Why even bother to compare the third world who pay sod all into their systems with a developed world. Apples and oranges.

I would say losing ones site is pretty damn important considering once it’s gone it gone.

No need for name calling.
I’m not a fan of the system, only the service.

 

[jimo]

Another NHS denier. To answer an earlier post about how we fix it it’s break this mentality that the nhs is some all godly diety that must be protected at all costs. Why even bother to compare the third world who pay sod all into their systems with a developed world. Apples and oranges.

I would say losing ones site is pretty damn important considering once it’s gone it gone.

The OP is in no danger of loosing his sight permanently, he has clouding on the lens of one eye so why say that in your last sentence!

I sympathise as I had to wait longer than I would have liked. It was making computer work very tiring. Perhaps wasn’t wise to leave it nearly three years before getting it investigated.

 

[EMcC]

I have nothing but praise for the NHS but I also have a few questions.
In the last 18 months I have had a heart attack, stents put in, Bowel cancer, operated on, Appendicitis, operated on, Umbilical hernia, operated on a Wednesday, one week later operated again to push something back in !!
Caught some sort of infection that brought me out in big red rashes on my arms and itched to the extent that I was 'self harming' to relieve the itch. I was referred to a Dermatologist for that but could not get an appointment for three months so went private and paid £1800 for a consultation and a tube of extra strong Dermavate and some tablets !!
Apart from the Infection I was treated under the NHS and during my last visit a nurse that recognised me said, with a smile on her face, so jokingly, that I'd had my share of the NHS budget!!
Now my question, I did 26 years in the Army and most of it was abroad during which time I paid NI and UK tax.
For any medical care I needed I was treated by military doctors and nurses either in military hospitals or field hospitals, both with excellent facilities I might add.
So did my Military treatment come out of the NHS budget ? if not then I have certainly had my NHS share during the last 18 months to make up for the periods I didn't use them
I am still undergoing Cancer after care so I still think the NHS is good.

 

[Fadcode]

part of the problem especially with the long waiting lists is, the Doctors you would normally see on the NHS are doing the private work.

 

[glasshalffull]

Far too many pen pusher's too much red tape not enough worker's tied up with too much paperwork etc etc and etc.
Spent all morning doing a pointless overdue audit which kept me from the bench and patient's sample's......

 

[Alantoo]

Well this morning I had a welcome telephone consultation with the surgeon who did my Biopsy back in August to say it had come back all clear. The physical examination findings and the MRI anomalies were likely just an inflammation of the prostate.

Good and bad. It took just 7 weeks from initial call early July to the GP, appointment, referral to Specialist, MRI and then Biopsy, the service was superb...the real buggeration was having the worry hanging over me for the three and a half months after the Biopsy before being told it was all clear...made worse when I was told the histology had come back in mid September...

Funnily enough shortly after sticking a finger up me bum, the consultant asked me what I did. I told him that 20 years ago I had designed and made the handrails and lamp at the main entrance of the hospital and he said "Was it your father that had the cataract operation here?" "How the hell did you know that?" Apparently he had just happened to read the dedication plaque a week or two before...They had enough money for my assistant's wages and most of the materials but the plaque mentioned that I had given my time as a thank you for my father's life changing cataract operation there.

Alan

 

[VSS]

I have to admit , this thread is a bit of an eye opener . I thought that the average person in the UK received decent service from the NHS , I guess I was wrong .

AB

The average person does.
The ones who don't make most noise, that's all.