Feeling a little let down.

[Fadcode]

We have in my opinion one of the best, if not the best health services in the world, it is sometimes frustrating when you dont get immediate attention, for instance they don't like doing knee transplants for people under 65 and this is because most transplants only last a max of 25 years, some less, and they would rather do one that will last you a lifetime.
I have had wonderful treatment from the NHS ( not local Doctors) in hospitals and specialists, so I can't complain, and anyone who has visited A&E will have seen the dregs of society they have to put up with at weekends, drunks, drug addicts etc, I have a few relatives as well as my daughter who are nurses, and they work really hard, they have both said how resources are used up by people who have been abroad for treatments which have gone horribly wrong, then turn up at the NHS for remedial work.
But that is one of the beauties of the NHS they treat everyone, and you dont have to show your credit card before you get the treatment.
Yes it has it's faults like everything in life, but where would we be without it.

 

[EMcC]

The average person does.
The ones who don't make most noise, that's all.

That's a bit unfair, usually the ones that post problems do it to see if anybody else had the same problem and how it was remedied.
I know lots of people that are always singing the praises of the NHS and I know why.
What some of the nurses have to put up with is beyond me.
There has been a couple of instances, when I was present, and I have heard the patients shout and call the nurses and the way they have spoken to them would have provoked a well earned slap from me.
The nurses I have had experiences with have all been very polite and very patient too, even the 'Sgt Major' head oncologist in the chemo ward !!
When I had my first session and had a reaction, hooping noises, coughing, kicking my legs up in the air and being sick all over the place.
I called her the 'Sgt Major' because when the initial nurse attended me, she said to send for the head oncologist and then suddenly I heard Click Click Click of heals hurrying along the corridor.
Then in marched this rather short lady with a broad smile on her face, approached me and asked what my problem was, by then I'd stopped being sick, so I said I'm OK now, and immediately threw up and coughed at the same time sending my bile in her direction
To which she replied, again with a smile on her face, " you ex servicemen will do anything to get attention" and ordered the nurse to take me to another ward and they kept me in over night for observation.
Apparently the reason they put me in a bed whereas all the others undergoing treatment were sat up in chairs, was because they expect a reaction when having the first treatment so I didn't disappoint them.
No, I think the nurses are wonderful, If I was a nurse and had a patient like me I would have found it difficult to treat me like they did.

 

[cyberstag]

Talking about NHS waiting times, A friend of mine smashed his arm belly clipping cattle in the crush, Had it plated up and screwed together, 3 months later one of the plates broke and he now has one bone that has joined and one flapping about with the ends nowhere near together.
He has been like this for 9 months now but has carried on farming; he is a one man band. Shore 800 ewes on his own like it and they still cannot give him date to fix it! Might you we breed them tough in Devon.

 

[devon deer stalker]

To be fair, once you are in a hospital under the care of a consultant, the care is pretty good, not outstanding, but good. nurses can be a bit hit and miss with their treatment, but most of that is down to poor training.

When I met my wife (I was her patient) in the early 80's the training was excellent, mainly hands on work on the wards, practical training combined with some 'classroom' time, I know I am biased but she was an excellent nurse, did it for almost 30 years, as have most of her nursing friends.

Then some **** decided all nurses needed a degree, they don't.

Cheers

Richard

 

[Sonicdmb73]

When I met my wife (I was her patient) in the early 80's the training was excellent, mainly hands on work on the wards, practical training combined with some 'classroom' time, I know I am biased but she was an excellent nurse, did it for almost 30 years, as have most of her nursing friends.

Then some **** decided all nurses needed a degree, they don't.

Cheers

Richard

My Sister trained in Leeds Jimmy’s and LGI. She had to go to college after school to get extra qualifications to get in. But her Nursing degree was taught on the wards and in various departments. She spent has years working with the elderly, first on the wards. Now assessing patients care needs so they can get the care they need along with the funding they are entitled to (unfortunately not always what they can afford).
I am sure she would rather see money go on patient care than wasted by poor management.

 

[dartmoordog]

Actually I think the average person does receive a decent service from NHS. Not world class, and it could be much better, but pretty decent nonetheless. Of course, some of our members here haven’t seen much of the world and don’t know how lucky they are to have access to what is, relatively speaking, superb healthcare. Head on down to Central Africa and check out their “hospitals” and then complain about the service we have here.
I understand the OP’s frustration but a routine cataracts operation is not exactly top of the list of priorities right now.
I can think of several close family members who certainly wouldn’t be here right now if it weren’t for the treatment they received from NHS.
Personally I’m just grateful for what we have.

Sorry, but I genuinely don’t see why you are comparing the NHS to the systems in Central Africa! Rather ridiculous. Just to let you know, for what it’s worth, I have probably visited more countries than your good self, including six in central and Southern Africa, so well aware thanks.

 

[User00047]

Sorry, but I genuinely don’t see why you are comparing the NHS to the systems in Central Africa! Rather ridiculous. Just to let you know, for what it’s worth, I have probably visited more countries than your good self, including six in central and Southern Africa, so well aware thanks.

Oh so you’ve really seen some shitty places in your time and you’re still feeling hard done by?
Ok well good luck to you

 

[dartmoordog]

Oh so you’ve really seen some shitty places in your time and you’re still feeling hard done by?
Ok well good luck to you

Yes I am, because I have paid into it for 48 years, unlike those in most African countries.

 

[Mick9abf]

The NHS is a financial juggernaut that has been out of control since its inception. The biggest problem is that it has been weaponised by politicians to win elections for decades and it is at a point that it is political suicide to deal with it, a bit like the benefits system but that’s another story.

It needs trimmed at the top and people need to accept they will have to pay more if they require more care beyond the basic provisions. If any government was honest, did this and then said you’ll have to pay an
extra £20 a week/month solely for NHS treatment (with the money only going there) I wouldn’t really mind that much.

Put it this way a friends wife recently retired early on a high 5 figure pension having worked in the NHS since she left education, she wasn’t even medically trained as far as I’m aware, but was management..... mental really.

 

[Rasputin]

Yes I am, because I have paid into it for 48 years, unlike those in most African countries.

When I tried to hack my fingers off in South Africa I was dragged to some remote hospital in the middle of nowhere as I was pumping blood out and it was the closest one. I can still remember now walking into that hospital and the look of horror on the receptionists face that a white person had come. Was quickly shuttled into a back room where a Glaswegian doctor in an operating theatre akin to something from victorian times proceeded to do the nicest stitching job I have ever had in any country. Shortly before being led out the back door with a bottle of iodine and some tablets he told me "lad you came to the right place all we do is stitch up gun and knife wounds here"... hahaha.

 

[Siggy]

You are right to feel let down, but the NHS is fecked. The politicians tried to turn it into a business because no one wants to pay for it. They did this by bringing in managers who knew nothing about health care instead to training the people who knew healthcare to be their own managers. It's not a business, it's a service and should be resourced accordingly.

 

[Idlemusket]

I have to add that besides the management I think the pharmaceutical companies may be a bit more of a drain on the NHS than they need to be

 

[Sonicdmb73]

I have to add that besides the management I think the pharmaceutical companies may be a bit more of a drain on the NHS than they need to be

Not that much you can do about that.
Mismanagement is far easier to deal with. Which would save the NHS millions, literally.

 

[Grannysmith]

As you would if it happened to you,
It shouldnt be a matter of luck.

 

[John Gryphon]

Get that mince pie fixed quickly Darty then you can come on down and see what a wonderful world it is down here ha ha.

Seriously wtf is 3500 quid when its for an eye,especially the 300 win mag eye!
Good luck.

 

[dartmoordog]

Get that mince pie fixed quickly Darty then you can come on down and see what a wonderful world it is down here ha ha.

Seriously wtf is 3500 quid when its for an eye,especially the 300 win mag eye!
Good luck.

I agree John, it is actually not expensive at all, cheaper than taking the dog to the vet that’s for sure, and it should be done before Xmas. It is just the frustration me and many people have with our health system, but yes, it is worth every penny.

But you forget mate, I have been to Australia four times, and visited every state, even been up your way, I thing Corryong is up your way, and I had better eyes then.

Hope the Achilles is well on the mend, sounds a bit of a bas*rd, I bet there will be no amount of rehab as well.

 

[John Gryphon]

I thing Corryong is up your way,

Just over the hill in Aussie miles Darty.
You may make it for a fifth trip...look me up I will test your eyes out in the bush looking for game.