First follow ups in six years

RICK O SHEA

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Despite having had my own dog [ess] partly trained for deer his main role has been for the flushing of pheasants and in the six years since he was trainned i have never had to use him in anger so to speak. [lucky run maybe]
That was until a couple of weeks ago a chap out stalking with me took a shot at a roe buck and despite our best efforts we were unable to locate him so i popped back home and got ozzy.
In uder two minutes he found the deer in a depretion in a dry ditch covered in reeds the shot was slightly quartering but had smashed the lungs and we new he hadnt traveled far but we lost sight of him as he ran down over a bank.
Surprisingly there was no blood trail until we got to within 6 feet of the deer and he was extremely well hidden running only a short distance.
Four days later a friend of mine rang to say he had a guest shoot a bit low on a severly limping buck and the deer made a dash for some dense cover and not wanting to push him in deeper with the light fading it was decided to come back later with a dog.
That was fine only the skies had oppened up and a severe storm of rain had delayed the follow up so he asked if i would like to help in the search, so a time was agreed and we soon headed off to the ground.
Going to the shot site with a dog each i decided to search down the bank into the cover while my friend searched along it and with the cover four feet high in places i thought to myself this is going to take some finding and we may be here quite a while.
After about ten minutes i saw my dog head into some tall nettles and head for a tree and failed to re-apear i followed the route he took and low and behold there he was sat under a tree next to the dead roe buck.
Lucky finds or a job well done who knows but i was one happy dog owner anyway.
Incidently as my dog is predominantly a game flusher i always carry a deer leg in a bag in the truck which i let him sniff before following a trail just to remind him what he is supposed to be looking for and so far it seems to be working.
Going back to the buck on closer inspection it turns out that after presumably a severe rta the rear leg had healed and the bones fussed back together only the leg was know facing the other way.

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Poor thing probably didnt know wether he was comming or going :doh: and a good one to take for the cull plan as the haunch and hip were severly damaged and emaciated.

It never ceases to amaze me how tough deer can be at times as he must have been in considerable pain for a long time and his body weight was well down on normal for the area
Just incase any of you were wondering his antlers surprisingly showed now sighns of any deformity.

The star of the show or just two lucky finds either way i think he has earnt his dinner for the next couple of weeks and help keep my lost deer tally at zero.


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Just thought ide share
ATB
RICK O SHEA
 
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you hav done well not to get a shout in the last 6 years
I hav done a few and my dog does like it
it's not easy if you do fail , but then again you hav tried
good result and if you feel it was lucky then hav an extra dram to celebrate, as each find wether it is lucky or not is worth it regardless
 
Well done a nice wright up ozzy looks pleased. Any tips on training a spaniel to find deer as I'm thinking of training one of mine for it. As like you I mainly use mine for flushing game.
 
Well done the pair of you. I hope Ozzy got a good reward ;)

My lab also works mostly on game, though I take her with me when stalking. I've had to use her a few times on follow-up's with clients and she's found the deer all times bar one. These days even if I can see the shot deer I will still put her on so she can track up to the beast. I don't know that it helps but I'd like to think it "conditions" her for when I need her help in a crisis. I wouldn't be without her.

Many thanks also for posting the great pics of the buck, that has to be one of the best/worst examples (if you get my drift) that I've seen of the type of injuries that deer recover from. As you say, a great one to cull.

willie_gunn
 
Well done a nice wright up ozzy looks pleased. Any tips on training a spaniel to find deer as I'm thinking of training one of mine for it. As like you I mainly use mine for flushing game.

I have to hold my hands up on this one as i sent him away to a profesional trainer not long after i got him and asked the trainer if he could get ozzy to follow a deer trail.
When he came back the chap said he will follow a trail and bark once he has located although probably due to lack of use on my part he no longer seems to although he is still quite vocal for a springer.
If you do decide to train yours when your at the local shoot keep him reasonably close so if a deer does break cover you can quickly call him off before he goes in search and mine seems call back quite easily.

Hope the training goes well
 
Great work Rick.

Do you stalk with your Springer by the way or just use them to follow up? I'd love another GWP or Lab (make more sense for the stalking, wildfowling and driven shooting I do mainly..) but the wife and kids want a springer or cocker as per my in laws. The only Springer I had was mad as a brush and only good for (very!) rough shooting. Albeit I will admit I am not very good at training them!

My GWP I had in the 90s and she brought down a red stag in young, thick forestry when a client blew a leg off, she was nearly 4 and I hadn't had to use her on a wounded beast before but it was more than worth it for that one occasion. Out of interest my grandfather had that line of GWP's from Mull - rumour was they descend to a dog & bitch that a German Naval Officer POW had.
 
Great work Rick.

Do you stalk with your Springer by the way or just use them to follow up? I'd love another GWP or Lab (make more sense for the stalking, wildfowling and driven shooting I do mainly..) but the wife and kids want a springer or cocker as per my in laws. The only Springer I had was mad as a brush and only good for (very!) rough shooting. Albeit I will admit I am not very good at training them!

My GWP I had in the 90s and she brought down a red stag in young, thick forestry when a client blew a leg off, she was nearly 4 and I hadn't had to use her on a wounded beast before but it was more than worth it for that one occasion. Out of interest my grandfather had that line of GWP's from Mull - rumour was they descend to a dog & bitch that a German Naval Officer POW had.

NickJ I only use him for follow ups as a fair percentage of the ground i stalk on is shoot ground or has pheasants on it and if i didnt keep my eye on him he would probably wander and i dont want to spoil the stalk calling him to heal or using the whistle because as you say they can be a bit daft at times.
The next dog i get its going to be totaly different and after seeing wayne davies work his gsp and seeing yorkshire johns dog at work on his videos my mind is made up and as i am out most days now i would have plenty of time to spend with one.
Nothing against a good lab though a friend of mine works two for both deer and retrieving with excellent results, so if i was you i would get the small cocker for the wife and kids and the gwp pup for yourself and as everyone knows cockers are much happier with another dog for company well thats what i would be telling the wife anyway.
 
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