Fox and roebuck

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End of roebuck season and a very windy day. I went woodland stalking and bumped on an unlucky fox. It was so windy he did not hear me coming and I managed to get it on film.
I saw a few roe but no luck, eventually I spotted a doe and what looked like an old buck. Again, because of the wind they let me get closer and fire a shot.


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Big no no that, over here. Against rule #3. Seems to me that by the time the shooter has finished faffing around with sticks, he might as well chamber a round as well.

The half-cock is quite a popular mod on various rifles to assist with noise reduction. Has mixed support from a safety point of view.

That straight pull sounded very noisy. Maybe just the video exaggerating it. Noise aside though, over here if you insisted on stalking with a round up the spout, you could find yourself in a spot of bother. That’s not to say some don’t do it - they do - but these days in general terms it is accepted as breaking of one of the golden rules and liable to result in a punch in the face if the shooter insists on doing it around others.
 
Hear what you say and were I an FC Ranger out with a Client on the Hill, I would certainly feel more comfortable knowing the rifle behind me had yet to have one up the spout.

On your own in a forest less of a concern even with those bloody annoying sticks that for all the world look like the Stalker's erecting something to hang his/her washing on!

K
 
In NZ, the primary concern about carrying a rifle with a round chambered, and the reason that we have rule #3 of seven golden rules, is the direct attribution of this behaviour to so many lone hunter fatalities in the bush, as well as accidental hunter shoots hunter deaths.

I attended a recent Mountain Safety Council talk, to support one of our local doctors who, as a hunter himself, is making a big effort to try and improve first aid knowledge to assist guys in responding to either their own injuries, or the injuries of others, due to falls and the effects of resultant impacts on the body and ones ability to recover the situation unaided. This has been identified as a significant problem - specifically injuries requiring a tourniquet.

At the end of the discussion a gnarly old Forestry guy from who is on telly here from time to time, gave a gruelling and frankly harrowing and upsetting presentation on fatalities and life changing injuries caused in relatively benign environments where the hunter has shot himself or someone else by carrying a loaded firearm and doing something as easy as tripping over a treeroot. Or, as was the case recently, packing a loaded firearm that the hunter forgot to clear into a case when returning to the car. And the other recent one, where a father shot his son in the back after stumbling on a rock on the trail.

I believe the presentation was requested by my doctor mate and I’ll see if its available for general publication. It really is very impactful and spares no details in just how easy it is to kill yourself or someone else, and how frequent these accidents are in New Zealand and around the world.

Anyway, time to climb down of my soapbox.

I admit to being very very surprised to see that behaviour in Roestalker’s video, and will be commenting on it respectfully but without pulling punches on his channel page.
 
Regarding safety, rules are you can stalk with a chambered round, only have to unload when crossing obstacles or climbing high seats, etc. For woodland stalking you probably would not want to wait with loading your rifle with a deer 20m away from you. I am sure it makes sense on Scottish hills or NZ mountaints but not when woodland stalking.
 
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