Getting a dog to speak upon a find

[Bigron321]

Any tips to get my young GWP to speak or bark upon a find?

Her tracking is impeccable she’s done amazingly well. She’s keen when she gets to a beast but it would be ideal to get her to let me know she’s on it, if I’ve slipped her off a line.

She’s a “quiet” dog anyway, I’ve tried to get her really excited and she just wants to eat the beast. Any hints/tips most welcome.

 

[vpk999]

Any tips to get my young GWP to speak or bark upon a find?

Her tracking is impeccable she’s done amazingly well. She’s keen when she gets to a beast but it would be ideal to get her to let me know she’s on it, if I’ve slipped her off a line.

She’s a “quiet” dog anyway, I’ve tried to get her really excited and she just wants to eat the beast. Any hints/tips most welcome.

Be thankful for the peace and quiet, as all females are usually very vocal.

 

[TokaS]

I'd take it right back to basics. Get her to speak on command wherever you do your training. Excite her, reward her when she barks. Introduce doing it at a distance until she barks on command at distance. Then introduce something deer, leg/skin etc and get her to find it and give the bark command once she's with it and reward her. She should start associating being with the deer to the bark... Maybe lol. Only how I would try it am sure there will be better ideas put there... Good luck

 

[Jon P]

Barking dogs are my pet hate however it is handy to get them to bark on a find. Like yours, mine is a fairly quiet type. She will only bark at them if there is still some life in them , I encouraged her by moving the animal slightly and even barked myself at them and she copied me , I can’t get her to bark at a still carcass though she just want to tenderise it so the game dealer can’t have it, so watching this with interest.

 

[User00040]

Any tips to get my young GWP to speak or bark upon a find?

Her tracking is impeccable she’s done amazingly well. She’s keen when she gets to a beast but it would be ideal to get her to let me know she’s on it, if I’ve slipped her off a line.

She’s a “quiet” dog anyway, I’ve tried to get her really excited and she just wants to eat the beast. Any hints/tips most welcome.

Better to have it quiet in case the deer is still alive, can land up pushing it further if it starts barking.

Never know, things might change if it ever holds something at bay.

I have a 'boomerang' lab so I usually just wait for him to come back to me if something is in deep cover. Check around his mouth to see if there is any blood, but if he does not come back thats either a very good or very bad sign

 

[Bigron321]

Better to have it quiet in case the deer is still alive, can land up pushing it further if it starts barking.

Never know, things might change if it ever holds something at bay.

I have a 'boomerang' lab so I usually just wait for him to come back to me if something is in deep cover. Check around his mouth to see if there is any blood, but if he does not come back thats either a very good or very bad sign

Thanks all appreciate your input. @caberslash Yes if she doesn’t come back let me know if you see her up there will you!

 

[yellow belly]

My lad won't bark unless he's at a big stag with a bit of life left in it. I have a garmin and always have the collar on and turn the hand set on when I send him for a find, stand still and wait for it to tell me he's on point then go get the deer. I wouldn't want him to bark at a carcass as a pinch to a pound of salt the bugger will give voice when you are about to pull the trigger!

 

[Dunwaters]

Are you really sure you want a barking or whining dog?
It gets really tiresome.
Also, in the UK a noisy dog will be eliminated from competition, so that trait has been suppressed.
It’s easy to come up with alternatives to barking, it’s not so easy to eliminate it once established.
My dogs will find deer, but will return to call and go find again on command , silently, and that’s how I like it.

 

[Morkai]

My beagle used to howl and howl if she found a rice crispie under the fridge, I didnt even have to teach her....little sh*t

 

[.25-06]

Swap ya for a barky whining gsp. You don't appreciate a quiet dog till you have a barky one. When they come back with the smug look on the face licking their lips. Allows for more to be shot in the outing. Although it is an impressive bark anything out in the open scampers into cover upon hearing it

 

[Morkai]

My beagle used to howl and howl if she found a rice crispie under the fridge, I didnt even have to teach her....little sh*t

I will dig out the video where she came over to me barking until I followed her into the kitchen where I had left a pork pie on the side..

 

[Bigron321]

Swap ya for a barky whining gsp. You don't appreciate a quiet dog till you have a barky one. When they come back with the smug look on the face licking their lips. Allows for more to be shot in the outing. Although it is an impressive bark anything out in the open scampers into cover upon hearing it

No thanks mate

 

[Malxwal]

Anybody's averse to a bit of comfort ?

 

[Bigron321]

Anybody's averse to a bit of comfort ?
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Oh Yes absolute tw**s!!

 

[rem284]

I trained 1 dog to bark. Never again because he was very vocal much to my annoyance and neighbours. I had to get rid of him. Garmin tracking collars are the answer for me

 

[Turnips]

The eldest of my two labs is my first dog (read that as learning curve...)

Unfortunately she picked up a bit of a noisy habit from my in-laws collies. She barks on command, which was an attempt at getting her to be quiet when stood on a peg. My figuring was if she learns to be vocal on a command then she can be taught to do the opposite on command too.

It didn't work, she's still noisy on a peg just make the most of having a quiet dog! (my young lab is quiet, thankfully, and I'm careful to keep it that way)

 

[Siggy]

Have you ever noticed “good” yoga teachers are all naturally really bendy? If you have a naturally quiet GWP you might be making life difficult for yourself. My current GWP is naturally quiet - had an attempt a getting her to bark dead but it wasn’t going anywhere. Interestingly she’ll bark if it’s alive.
Not saying give up, but you might want to try other methods of locating your dog after it’s found a deer. Halving method that caberslash mentions is a good start and can be built up to bringsel.

 

[Keith Edmunds]

A lot of the breed requirement comes down to 'tradition' - and the tradition from other countries from another place in time (before GPS trackers). I usually stir up bad feeling when I say this but.....Dogs are not museum pieces, they are not anachronisms stuck in another place and time. Breed for today and the future, breed for your own landscape, laws and lifestyle - train for today and the lifespan of the dog. If you really require a dog to do something then train it - but only if the trait is useful and needed - not because it is what they historically did.

I am no shepherd but I bet the requirements of a 21st century sheepdog are very different from that of 200 years earlier. Back in time a huntsman or shepherd bred what he needed and trained for what he needed - not what a breed standard (they didn't exist) or historic account said he should need..........Yet do that in 2023 and you have the wrath of all dog enthusiasts against you - I really don't understand this clinging on to the past school of dog breeding.

 

[rem284]

My gwp's really find it difficult to bark when they have a mouth full of deer neck

 

[Bigron321]

My gwp's really find it difficult to bark when they have a mouth full of deer neck

There is that too!!