Highlandsjohn
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There would be no help from the other lot but Boris's input in this bill is a concern with huge repercussions..
God I hope not
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dartmoordog
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They probably want to revoke the election, and have a people’s vote.
Mossypaw
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I hate the thought that most south of the Rio Tweed think we’re all raving nats up here. I certainly ain’t and neither are my close relations or work colleagues.
My take on it is that it has nothing to do with nationalism , but the dream of building some sort of left wing eutopia covered in trees and windmills owned by the masses (and no hunting) even Packham is considering moving up.
We had a minibus emblazoned with snp out canvassing last week, about a dozen on board and all but two had English accents.
Please don’t blame all Scots, some of us quite like the ‘United Kingdom’
My take on it is that it has nothing to do with nationalism , but the dream of building some sort of left wing eutopia covered in trees and windmills owned by the masses (and no hunting) even Packham is considering moving up.
We had a minibus emblazoned with snp out canvassing last week, about a dozen on board and all but two had English accents.
Please don’t blame all Scots, some of us quite like the ‘United Kingdom’
In this country, there are people so poor they're dying of obesity.What drivel ... 1:3 kids - a few years back when I was still on the tools I worked in 100s of social houses the situations I saw would change that view. Single Mums in 4 bed town houses with American fridge freezers, a plasma in every room 2 xboxes a fridge over spilling with food . All on the ponce. I completely understand that there is children in poverty in this country which is no fault of there own and I am sympathetic to this and wish I could do more. I also know these parents who knowingly bring kids into this world and into poverty are the people (Corbyn voters ) who shoulnt be allowed to have kids. We didn’t start having kids until we could afford it and was in stable income. I’ve met loads of single mums under 20 with kids just to get on the social it’s disgusting . I appreciate there is accidents but a one a one night stand baby in today’s age shouldn’t happen. The working/middle class tax payer shouldn’t have to pay for this. It’s pure socialist crap.
The parents still manage to spend £10 on a pack of fags though
The daft thing is surely, if Scotland had a referendum and won its independence, and obviously stayed/joined the EU, this would mean they would just become a state in the EU and would have to give up their independence. like we had to do.
It must be obvious to most people in Scotland, that they could not afford to join the EU, and they would also have to put up a border between the UK and Scotland, they would have to think about the people who live here who were born in Scotland, just as other EU nationals from the rest of the EU have to now register here, in order to live here.
I personally would not mind Scotland leaving the UK, and I can understand them wanting independence, just as we have just gained independence from the EU, but we are a different kettle of fish to Scotland, I would rather they had a referendum for equality, like having to pay for their prescriptions, like we do, having to pay for Higher Education like we do, had to pay for old age care, like we do,to me that would make more sense.
It must be obvious to most people in Scotland, that they could not afford to join the EU, and they would also have to put up a border between the UK and Scotland, they would have to think about the people who live here who were born in Scotland, just as other EU nationals from the rest of the EU have to now register here, in order to live here.
I personally would not mind Scotland leaving the UK, and I can understand them wanting independence, just as we have just gained independence from the EU, but we are a different kettle of fish to Scotland, I would rather they had a referendum for equality, like having to pay for their prescriptions, like we do, having to pay for Higher Education like we do, had to pay for old age care, like we do,to me that would make more sense.
iain b
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I DID not swear at them. If it had been Corbyn.............
Hornet 6
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I voted out in the referendum, but was denied a meaningful vote in the last election.
Its not me who needs to suck it up chum
In your last paragraph, there is an excellent justification for the rest of the UK to vote on Scottish Independence since what they have is in some (large) part paid for by the English/Welsh taxpayers. It would be a false promise for Scotland to think it can pay for 'the future golden days of independence' when there is so much to pay back - as does every other English and Wales County/Met - all roads e.g. are built with 'mortgages'.
If I were a credit reference agency, I would doubt Scotland's ability to be self supporting - so I hope the truth (either way) is fully exposed this time for all of us to vote on. I have to say if the numbers don't stack up many English (the long abused) would probably vote for Independence and see what terms the Scots might be allowed to re-join under after failing the EU entry tests. Possibly the worst outcome for those proud Scots but also a sudden realisation that William Wallace lived in a sod hut.
Just out of interest;
An important early source of Scottish history, the Orygynale Cronykil by Andrew of Wyntoun, suggests that the previous name of Edinburgh Castle had been “Maiden’s Castle.” It was supposedly founded by the legendary King of the Britons, Ebraucus. His name appears until somewhere the 16th century, as well as the designation “Maiden’s Castle” can be noticed in other documents such as the charters of David I and also those who succeeded him.
The truth is often less palatable than the myths.
Coddy
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I totally disagree.
I used to vote SNP, i voted for independence in 2015 or whenever it was.
If there was another vote and i hope there is not, i would vote to stay.
We already pay a higher tax rate for living in Scotland, and if Jimmy Krankie gets independence the taxes would just go higher.
Scotland might have worked if they had Independence in the 70s, when oil was booming.
The oil is running out (i install new wells for a living) and oil production wise, Scotland now is a minor producer. Far more wells are being plugged and abandoned than are being drilled.
If Scotland gets Independence then i would be selling up, but i expect the clamour to get out would be so high house prices would free fall and would be a struggle to sell.
Jimmy Krankie boils my ****, and i wish she would just f*** off.
Scotland the Brave, (The real Scotland), will win through .... they are not idiots as a collective.
On a shoot today one of the ladies said she waited up half the night on Thursday for the outcome of the erection. 
dartmoordog
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On a shoot today one of the ladies said she waited up half the night on Thursday for the outcome of the erection.
Bet she was in her mid 40s from Dartmoor!
Get along and ride you're pony.
So did a lot of Chinese, but alas the earth did not move for them.On a shoot today one of the ladies said she waited up half the night on Thursday for the outcome of the erection.
Cumbrian 1
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The problem as I see it is that most of Scotland is owned by people outside of Scotland, nothing wrong with that but the likes of the SNP want to take back ownership in the belief that property has been unfairly acquired by outside parties paying the going rate in an open market.
As far as I’m concerned if you’ve made a sale and have had the financial benefit of that sale then there can be no genuine grievance. If you then invest those proceeds in donner kebabs and special brew it is no one else’s fault.
