Got arrested this morning
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artschool
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the police were only following orders
Rafter
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That's a hell of a thing to say.
Bo Diddley
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"Befehl ist Befehl"... The Nuremburg Defense... Only Following Orders.
shakey jake
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Not wrong though
But they do, all calls are recorded. As part of the initiating an incident number all previous calls from that number will be listed, along with the nature of the call. However in this case we have zero clue of the nature of the call, we don’t know who called, we are unaware of the information given to the police. This may very well have been a passerby witnessing two people with a firearm leaving a car.
I must say that reading some of the comments here blow my mind. Ex soldiers ( or maybe present) who try to normalize sticking guns in peoples faces, by telling "that's what we did in Iraq." We are talking about England here, and not downtown Bagdad. And the English countryside. I have spent a lot of time on the English countryside (but not hunting) , mostly up in Oxfordshire, and that is not a war zone. It's a peaceful and beautiful place. Having some here suggest that it goes with the territory when you're a hunter, that one has to accept being shackled up and threatened with guns by the police, is really a tall order. Why would police behave like this? Because you might be a poacher? Even without the hunting guns you might be a rapist. A much worse offense. Most of you guys here are equipped to be one. With the logic some have displayed here, I should expect to be tackled and put in irons every time I walk by the school here in my neighborhood. I might be child molester for all the police know. Better safe than sorry. Im sorry guys, but you are on a dangerous slippery slope towards really dark times if you accept this...
Or charged as "Going equipped with Werther's in a school zone"?
No "63" they save the lead and its amalgam to fill the cavities in the teeth of the poor kiddies that ate too many of them. Werther's = dental decay in a plastic wrapper! In fact orthodontists the world over did so well from them in the 1990s that BMW used to give the Werther's factory owner a free brand new top of the line Model 740 every other year as a "thank you".
artschool
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i was being a bit facetious
OK, the right or wrong of the police action / response regards the OP's originally post I don't know, as I don't have the full details.
However attitudes amongst the general (non shooting) public have changed drastically over the last 35 or so years.
As a 14 year old I could walk a mile and a half to an air rifle club (in a church hall of all places). Obviously carrying a firearm of some type in a gun slip. Passed the main police station, and nobody would bat an eyebrow.
Today I feel if someone sees what could be a firearm, in any form, I could be subject to a visit from armed response.
Sad times.
However attitudes amongst the general (non shooting) public have changed drastically over the last 35 or so years.
As a 14 year old I could walk a mile and a half to an air rifle club (in a church hall of all places). Obviously carrying a firearm of some type in a gun slip. Passed the main police station, and nobody would bat an eyebrow.
Today I feel if someone sees what could be a firearm, in any form, I could be subject to a visit from armed response.
Sad times.
A lot of what you worry about is in your mind, and shooters have worked themselves into this situation of paranoia.
You only have to look at some of the stupid questions that get asked on here from time to time, eg:
- How do I cross a road from one part of my ground to the other, while carrying my rifle?
- How do I drop off a rifle at my local RFD in town, if I can't park right outside his door?
- How do I get my rifle from my house to my car parked on the street?
I agree that what the OP has experienced may be an extreme case, but if we let rare situations like that affect our ability to carry out normal legal activities, where's it going to end?
(Incidentally, the answer to all three questions above is: Walk).
Rafter
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It didn't work especially well then, and it shouldn't work at all today.
When I lived in Cheshire/Greater Manchester I once rang into the control room to advise them I'd be shooting on a local golf course (only rang in as it bordered housing). On getting through to the control room the lady who answered asked what I would be shooting, when I told her rabbits she advised she wasn't happy and the conversation was difficult.
Never rang in again!
Never rang in again!
Greenmist
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I agreed to trial it for a month, first call was difficult, asking what firearms I'd be using, when I asked why they needed that information, "to check if you have permission to have it", eh no. After that every operator was very good, to the point I was on first name terms with them and exchanged niceties. At one point I was called to see if I was ok as I'd stayed out longer than normal (awkward fox). Still binned it after the month as lots of times you could be on hold for quite a while, which is understandable as emergency calls must take priority. If they introduced a text/email service I might look at it again
That’s a bad analogy.
It’s like being arrested outside a school after a malicious call indicated you were attempting to abduct a child.
The trouble is the cops are hung out to dry for every decision they make by the media, and social media, so they are in a constant state of second guessing themselves. It’s been detrimental at all levels within the organisation.
I have often said, on here, the british public will get the police they deserve. Well it’s happening, plummeting standards, 60% attrition in places, tenured cops leaving in their droves. Hold on tight!
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