GUN FROM EUROPE
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I may be wrong, but I think it was possible in some EU states when we were EU members.....they may have accepted a UK FAC.
Why not try emailing an EU gunshop and asking the question.....?
For example: Rifle Archives
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Why not try emailing an EU gunshop and asking the question.....?
For example: Rifle Archives
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Export/Import paperwork and fees.
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Your FAC / Visitors Firearms Permit, allows you to bring them in as personal import, without the need for an Import Permit. Not much of an issue, if you bring it as personal luggage, and the firearm is on your ticket, customs will confirm with your issueing Police Force whether that particular firearm is on your ticket. As for tax, you might be able to convince them that it's not an import....
Where would the firearm be picked up from? I assume you've got the right to possess in that particular country? In that case you might get away saying you're taking the rifle to the UK for a trip?
if it's officially an export, you'll need an export permit and won't be able to take it as personal luggage, so you would have to export it and import it through an agent.
Where would the firearm be picked up from? I assume you've got the right to possess in that particular country? In that case you might get away saying you're taking the rifle to the UK for a trip?
if it's officially an export, you'll need an export permit and won't be able to take it as personal luggage, so you would have to export it and import it through an agent.
30-06
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I have the calibres on my ticket in the UK. I want to get the gun back here purchasing it in the EU. The firearm would be picked up from chez republic.
If you have the right to possess firearms in the Czech Republic, thus check it in with you in the Cz, and convince the local authorities you are not "exporting" it, but just taking it out of Cz, I don't see any reason why you wouldnt be able to.
If the firearms are on your ticket, you can just take the red channel at customs to declare them, is my understanding.
If the firearms are on your ticket, you can just take the red channel at customs to declare them, is my understanding.
Blaser K77
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Hello!
I am in Sweden and can only talk for Swedish regulations with any certainty, but I suspect most EU-countries have similar regulations when exporting out of the EU-zone. So far I have done exports to Norway, Australia and USA, and imports from Norway and transfers to and from Denmark and Finland.
First, for posterity, selling/buying/trading civilian firearms between EU-states is considered a transfer, not import or export. Easy and there is a transfer fee in addition to a license fee. I’ve done this several times and it’s easy.
In Sweden, all the transfer paperwork and applications are handled by the Police authorities.
It’s slightly more difficult, or at least more cumbersome, when doing import/export in or out of EU.
In Sweden it works like this if I were to sell a firearm to the UK, which I might do quite soon:
Buyer will first have to arrange for an import license in accordance with UK regulations.
When this has cleared, the seller can apply for an export license and then add the buyer’s import license, copy of passport/ID, firearms license etc.
It is ISP, (a Swedish entity which handles almost all trades with articles of warfare, military and/or civilian, from bombs to guns and most other firearm related objects) who handles this license and the cost is currently 1800SEK or ~ £144.
You can apply for one or several firearms, the price is per application, not per firearm.
When seller have received the export license, shipping can commence.
Shipping is the really tough nut to crack these days but it is possible if you do your research properly. It is expensive so bringing firearms as checked luggage makes perfect sense.
Some airlines still allow for this, for a fee of course, but before checking in and boarding the plane with your new toy, you will have to process the firearm(s) at the Swedish Customs at the airport.
Then finally, and with a much lighter wallet, you are at last on the way home!
Where, I supect, many more papers and invoices are ready for you at the border!?
But I am sorry to say I have no knowledge of UK prices, regulations etc.
I have heard it’s not a good idea to enter or exit the UK at London Heathrow with anything that resembles firearms so might have to find other airports or harbours?
As a final note, you can not just buy a firearm “on the spur” and bring it home. The processes take time, funds and patience.
Let me know if you need any more assistance!
Good Luck!
I am in Sweden and can only talk for Swedish regulations with any certainty, but I suspect most EU-countries have similar regulations when exporting out of the EU-zone. So far I have done exports to Norway, Australia and USA, and imports from Norway and transfers to and from Denmark and Finland.
First, for posterity, selling/buying/trading civilian firearms between EU-states is considered a transfer, not import or export. Easy and there is a transfer fee in addition to a license fee. I’ve done this several times and it’s easy.
In Sweden, all the transfer paperwork and applications are handled by the Police authorities.
It’s slightly more difficult, or at least more cumbersome, when doing import/export in or out of EU.
In Sweden it works like this if I were to sell a firearm to the UK, which I might do quite soon:
Buyer will first have to arrange for an import license in accordance with UK regulations.
When this has cleared, the seller can apply for an export license and then add the buyer’s import license, copy of passport/ID, firearms license etc.
It is ISP, (a Swedish entity which handles almost all trades with articles of warfare, military and/or civilian, from bombs to guns and most other firearm related objects) who handles this license and the cost is currently 1800SEK or ~ £144.
You can apply for one or several firearms, the price is per application, not per firearm.
When seller have received the export license, shipping can commence.
Shipping is the really tough nut to crack these days but it is possible if you do your research properly. It is expensive so bringing firearms as checked luggage makes perfect sense.
Some airlines still allow for this, for a fee of course, but before checking in and boarding the plane with your new toy, you will have to process the firearm(s) at the Swedish Customs at the airport.
Then finally, and with a much lighter wallet, you are at last on the way home!
Where, I supect, many more papers and invoices are ready for you at the border!?
But I am sorry to say I have no knowledge of UK prices, regulations etc.
I have heard it’s not a good idea to enter or exit the UK at London Heathrow with anything that resembles firearms so might have to find other airports or harbours?
As a final note, you can not just buy a firearm “on the spur” and bring it home. The processes take time, funds and patience.
Let me know if you need any more assistance!
Good Luck!
Jagare
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A couple of years ago, I dealt with the ISP with regard to exporting a rifle to Norway. I've got to say they were very helpful, and the women I talked too talked me through the form. They were also quick at processing my application..
Blaser K77
Member
Yes you are absolutely right!
I’ve dealt with them on several occassions and they are outstanding every time.
I’ve dealt with them on several occassions and they are outstanding every time.
Blaser K77
Member
@HH375 , can you please inform me what you know about UK Import Permits?
I have a friend in the UK and he is keen to purchase a rifle from me in Sweden but before anything can be done, the ISP here (see earlier posts) must receive something that proves the recipients right to import said rifle so they (ISP) can issue my export license. Does a UK Import Permit clearly state this right to import? Or do you need to apply for anything else?
And as an alternative way of shipping, would it be possible for me to travel to the UK and bring the rifle with me for a handover at the airport/border? Probably not but it is no problem from my authorities to do so, hence worth asking. Way better if he travels to me when the paperwork is solved and granted.
Or, just a thought, maybe he can invite me to hunt with him in the UK, and I'll bring the gun for the hunt and leave it there? Just need to make sure to fix all import/export papers are granted before I go? And do the proper procedures when leaving Sweden and entering the UK.
Or just ship it with a carrier but that will be very expensive for just one rifle. I am in contact with carriers but have no exact price just yet.
If anyone can expand on my thoughts above, please do! Preferably if you have done something like this before.
Cheers!
Heym SR20
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My suggestion is to get hold of somebody like Holts Auctioneers who are constantly shipping guns in and out of the UK.. Have a chat with their Swedish representative.
HOLTS Auctioneers
HOLTS are Europe's leading Auctioneers of Fine Modern & Antique Guns.
Blaser K77
Member
My suggestion is to get hold of somebody like Holts Auctioneers who are constantly shipping guns in and out of the UK.. Have a chat with their Swedish representative.
HOLTS Auctioneers
HOLTS are Europe's leading Auctioneers of Fine Modern & Antique Guns.www.holtsauctioneers.com
Thanks, I am awaiting their reply!
30-06
Well-Known Member
Hi
Thank you for the in-depth information. It clearly answers my question. Best would be to ask the dealer to get it over. This way there won’t be any hassles for permits and so on.
Cheers
Blaser K77
Member
Oh yes there is! The dealer still have to apply since very few have general licenses to ship and export outside of EU.
Some do but if not, the application with ISP must be applied for, and granted before any export can take place.
Good Luck!
When I was applying for a German Export licence from BAFA, they required me to show them an export permit. The Department for Business and Trade has confirmed with me that For all imports into Great Britain, an import licence is not required for the temporary or permanent import of your own firearms listed on a Firearm Certificate, Shotgun Certificate or a British Visitors Permit (BVP) as long as your domestic authority is presented and the firearm is freely declared to Customs at the UK Border. This includes weapons such as sporting shotguns, hunting rifles, certain air weapons, black powder pistols, their component parts and standard ammunition that is neither expanding (only applies to calibres which can only be used in pistols), incendiary or armour piercing
I forwarded that email to the German Authorities and they accepted it.
Your friend could also sponsor you for a Visitors Permit where you take the firearm with you and leave it with him in the UK, as long he has the authority to possess that firearm ie. it needs to be on his FAC. In that case you wouldn't "need" an import or export permit, since on paper you would be "taking the firearm out of Sweden for use in the UK" and the intent would be bringing it back again. In the eyes of the police that would be legal, however, in the eyes of customs, it would be similar to buying a Rolex overseas and bringing it into the UK without paying VAT/import duties.
I've shipped a firearm from EU to the UK (post brexit) and shipping costs were around 500eur I believe, and fees to the import agent here in the UK were around 400-500 GBP.
Blaser K77
Member
Thanks a lot!
Yes the invitation is most likely the best way to do it but I still have to apply for an Export license beforehand. There is no way around this I’m afraid.
Now I need to find out about which airports I can travel to? London Heathrow is a no-go I’ve heard?
Thanks a lot!!
I've only flown with firearms within the UK, Easyjet into Gatwick was fine, just had to wait quite a long time until a baggage handler just walked into the luggage hall with the firearm and paperwork. Got me worried a bit initially, since there was no staff on site, so no one to ask.
I tried taking BA, but BA paperwork is a bladdi nightmare, and no one knows what they are on about. Where as Easyjet was pretty straight forward. Rock up an extra 90 min before the flight and it gets sorted.
Blaser K77
Member
Thanks a lot!
BA would be my easiest choice with direct flights from Stockholm but need to check more. Will update here for posterity.
Cheers!
tusker
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I think BA charge £125 to take a firearm.
Tusker
Blaser K77
Member
Thanks! Yes, they all do take our hard earned money.
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