Having a problem mounting schmidt and bender 3-12x50

[james19306]

Hi all i Have a schmidt 3-12x50 30mm which i have just bought and am trying to mount it on a sako 75 hunter stainless in .222. My problem came about when i clamped it on with a set of low height optilocks this leaves the objective of the scope about a quarter of an inch above the barrel, i thought this was great as i have the body of the scope nice and close to the barrel but problem is when i am out at night with lamp or even in slight moonlight the stainless barrel seems to be reflecting light which seems to cause a white haze that covers the whole bottom half of the reticle. when you look through it you would nearly think someone is holding up a white piece of paper on the bottom of the objective. I also noticed when i turn the mag down really low i can see a blurry outline of the moderator in the bottom of the reticle. My question is will a set of medium optilocks sort this as they will lift the scope a bit higher from the barrel. Anyone else have the same combination of rifle and scope and have the same problem?? sorry its so long thanks for any help.

 

[Lee303]

It would seem that you are pretty limited in options here. Even if you did dull the barrel with black tape etc (which would look a bit sh1t to say the least!) you would still have the mod issue.

Raising the scope with a higher mount seems like the only way forward.... Although, you may still have both problems. Especially the former, since the white reflection from the barrel is covering a substantial part of your view.

Trial and error from here I think. Hopefully someone else has better advice from a similar experience.

 

[james19306]

Strange thing is i just took a Docter 8x56 off this rifle which had 1" tube but sat slightly higher about half to three quarters of an inch above the action and never had this problem at all i think the medium mounts will solve it at least i hope they will thanks for the halp.

 

[Lee303]

Oh, well that sounds promising. Hearing that, I would agree, providing you match similar action clearance with the higher mount, you should be cool. The Docter has a wider field, so should give the Schmidt a better chance at the same hieght.

Does this problem occur throughout the Schmidts zoom range?

 

[Thar]

I might have a set of 30mm stainless high Opti-lock rings for sale that would help out. Have them on sale or return if you are OK paying the P+P. If that don't work you will not have paid out money for nothing.

ATB

Tahr

 

[widows son]

Buy a barrel sleeve it will cut down the glare its a common problem with large objective lensed scopes and lamping .

or buy some cloth tape pain to get off

 

[james19306]

I didnt really try it at any other mag as i shoot at night at 8 or so. like you say if the tube height was ok a little higher with the docter shouldnt have any problem with schmidt at the same height. other good news is i only got the mounts lastnite so the guy will change them to medium height if i want, probably wont take a lot to make a difference here i dont really want to go down the botch job try sticking things on the barrel route with gear of this price.

 

[widows son]

The lower you go the bigger the problem, your lamp is coming down toward the barrel i went the opposite way and covered the barrel with a neoprene sleeve the barrel was blued it never stopped any glare the s/s will enhance it all the more .

 

[Lee303]

other good news is i only got the mounts last nite so the guy will change them to medium height if i want, probably wont take a lot to make a difference here

Nice, that's the next stop then...

 

[bow]

have you tried moving the light on the scope

 

[james19306]

I was thinking of moving the light, problem is the objective is so close to the barrel even the slightest bit of moonlight is giving me the white out as well so i will have to try the higher mounts and if that doesent work will have to put some tape on the top of the barrel or hold the light in my hand instead of scope mounted. Anyone have one of these on medium mounts? I cant see medium optilocks with 50mm front lens being too high or causing problems!

 

[merlin]

Sorry if this is a dumbass question....have you got a mod on your rifle??

If so , perhaps it's that causing the 'flare'??

I've got a stainless-barreled T3 with my objective sitting only 1/4" or so above the barrel, and I don't get any kind of image....but when I have my stainless PES can on, I might.... I'll have a gander when I get home tonight (I have a neoprene cover on my mod BTW, so not a problem)

ATB,

Merlin

 

[james19306]

Yeah got a mod on but this is happening when it take it off as well so it is the barrel unfortunately i think a barrel sleeve might be the cheapest fix for this, cant help thinking the medium mounts will stop it though.

 

[callie]

It might be the reflection is coming from the rear of the moderator and not the main body and not the rifle barrel

 

[whinfell]

My rifle has a stainless barrel, it has a Zeiss 6-24 x 56 scope mounted on low optilock mounts, have an a tec mod on the end, never had a problem, probably your mod that is causing the problem.

 

[bewsher500]

mount your light on the moderator underneath

 

[Uncle Buck]

A freind of mine had the same haze problem with a LEDRAY 700 gunlight ( common fault ), which he overcome by fitting

a piece of tube to act like a sunshade to the lamp. ( Reckon DEBEN will have to design one at some point !)

Depending on your own type of lamp , if not to large a diameter would be an option.

Rgds, Buck.

 

[caorach]

Maybe the problem is nothing to do with the barrel.

I have the same problem with an 8X56 S&B and a black barrel - when I lie down behind the rifle at night sometimes it looks just like someone has put a sheet of white paper in front of the scope and all I see is a grey field.

At first I thought the scope was faulty but that didn't explain why it works just fine in daylight. Then I started noticing that it was in some way related to my head position and have found when shooting at night that I need to hold my head slightly differently from when shooting in day time. Now, it may be that in day time I find the "eye box" more naturally because there is something easy to see in the scope while for some reason I'm not doing that at night or it is also possible that there is something odd with my eyesight which is causing the problem when the pupil is fully open. I really don't know but what I do know is that I can correct the problem and that it is certainly me, and not the scope, that has the problem nor are there reflections coming from anywhere.

With that in mind I would suggest that you get behind the rifle some night and start moving your head about a bit to see if you can get a good image. My money says that you can but that it takes a few minutes and some trial and error and that once you become aware of the problem you can correct for it in the field.

 

[Overlay]

My .223 has a Bushnell 6500 elite 30mm scope on board with medium mounts, when the moderator is on I can see the mod at the bottom of the scope

I have got used to it and has not made any difference to the gun or me, I guess if it is a problem I could always keep the mod off when required

 

[Overlay]

I have left my sunshield on the scope it works perfect with ledray 700 no light filters through or in