jontie3332
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I use 7 to 10 year vinyl printed with solvent uv protected ink buddy as I said 25 p each is cost price all I ask is postage paid buy the buyer
High seat signage
- Thread starter prometheus
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Hey Simon
give these guys a call , I only ever use these them
never had any signs done like you are after but they can do you a stick on transfer
you just supply your own bit of plastic
Vehicle Livery | Chapter 8 Chevrons | Exhibition Displays | Vinyl Stickers | Visionline UK in Solihull, nr Birmingham, West Midlands
speak to Martin senior or junior
give these guys a call , I only ever use these them
never had any signs done like you are after but they can do you a stick on transfer
you just supply your own bit of plastic
Vehicle Livery | Chapter 8 Chevrons | Exhibition Displays | Vinyl Stickers | Visionline UK in Solihull, nr Birmingham, West Midlands
speak to Martin senior or junior
prometheus
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saw that one Dom, I was in the local screwfix today. It's a possibility Dom but they are still over £5 each and it could be improved upon for the message we want to convey.
prometheus
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thanks for that contact Rich. One of the members on an earlier post also makes this type and has very generously offered to supply to members at cost - 25 pence each. I guess you would just need to find the right bit of plastic to fit. I may be looking for a local vehicle livery supplier too so will definitely contact them for that.
243varmint
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jontie3332
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the ones i make fellas you dont need extra platic basicly stick the to the eye level run of your highseat so kids or fools thinking of climbing them can see it
Chris J
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I know that straying into the law always causes a massive debate, but the truth is that signs afford very little by way of defence. That's not to say don't bother with them, but on their own they are pretty meaningless. In most cases this is nothing to do with any legislative requirements of the Health and Safety at Work etc Act 1974. But we have had that debate before. Whether or not you agree, there is very little likelihood of a criminal prosecution being brought against anyone who owns a high seat should someone fall off. What people are really looking to satisfy here is some notion of civil law, possibly just under a general common law duty or under something like the Occupier's Liability Act.
So, what's the point? Well go with the signs, sure, but the wording is not dictated by law. In all probability the words Private. Keep Off would be good enough. The reality is that in order to pursue a civil action against you should someone fall off, they would have to prove that a duty was owed in the first instance - well if this is in a publicly accessed place, the plaintiff could probably swing that one, but then that the duty was breached in a negligent fashion leading directly to the injury. If you have a rickety old rotten seat or tower, then the fact that it was not safe for YOU kinda seals the deal for them. But if the seat was fine and they just pillocked about on it, then you have not failed.
They key to proving this is really inspecting the seat regulalry (no I am not defining what 'regular' is) and actually keeping a record of condition. Now I have seats up in Scotland that I struggle to find - and I put them up. So I don't have signs on or inspections. But if I were somewhere really quite public, like in the middle of Cannock Chase, I would take pics and note defects. I may even go as far as removing ladders on some structures, or at least locking them off with boards. There really is no hard and fast here, it's all context dependant.
No doubt someone will say 'well I have been told this or that' and that may be right in that situation. But you have to act according to each situation. Common law is stored in case histories, not in books of rules.
So in summary
This is less Elf and Safety and more civil law
Signs are only part of it and the actual words aren't especially critical (not everyone can read)
Condition of the asset is the most important bit and crucially being able to show that you cared for them
If they aren't safe to be used by anyone, then do something about it.
Hope that has helped rather than confused anyone. As part of my role, I help in defending our business against claims that run to 6 figures so I know how the system works and what the courts look for in a defence. And trust me, it's not a well worded sign. Actually it could be a badly worded sign that is the undoing. Certainly don't put 'Dangerous, keep off'
Chris
So, what's the point? Well go with the signs, sure, but the wording is not dictated by law. In all probability the words Private. Keep Off would be good enough. The reality is that in order to pursue a civil action against you should someone fall off, they would have to prove that a duty was owed in the first instance - well if this is in a publicly accessed place, the plaintiff could probably swing that one, but then that the duty was breached in a negligent fashion leading directly to the injury. If you have a rickety old rotten seat or tower, then the fact that it was not safe for YOU kinda seals the deal for them. But if the seat was fine and they just pillocked about on it, then you have not failed.
They key to proving this is really inspecting the seat regulalry (no I am not defining what 'regular' is) and actually keeping a record of condition. Now I have seats up in Scotland that I struggle to find - and I put them up. So I don't have signs on or inspections. But if I were somewhere really quite public, like in the middle of Cannock Chase, I would take pics and note defects. I may even go as far as removing ladders on some structures, or at least locking them off with boards. There really is no hard and fast here, it's all context dependant.
No doubt someone will say 'well I have been told this or that' and that may be right in that situation. But you have to act according to each situation. Common law is stored in case histories, not in books of rules.
So in summary
This is less Elf and Safety and more civil law
Signs are only part of it and the actual words aren't especially critical (not everyone can read)
Condition of the asset is the most important bit and crucially being able to show that you cared for them
If they aren't safe to be used by anyone, then do something about it.
Hope that has helped rather than confused anyone. As part of my role, I help in defending our business against claims that run to 6 figures so I know how the system works and what the courts look for in a defence. And trust me, it's not a well worded sign. Actually it could be a badly worded sign that is the undoing. Certainly don't put 'Dangerous, keep off'
Chris
thistledeyke
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Have a look at "Setons Saftey" more signs than you can shake a stick at and a reasonable price!!
Cheers
Pete.
Cheers
Pete.
Monkey Spanker
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Just refreshed my quote! If I order 200, I can get them at £2.50 each (including VAT). They will be on a metal Aluminium Dibond plate and will measure 75mm x 110mm. They will be undrilled. They will have a picture of a ladder inside a red 'prohibited' type circle with a cross through it and the wording underneath will read:
"WARNING! NO UNAUTHORISED USE"
They will take 7-10 days to produce.
Postage will be whatever it costs plus a jiffy bag or whatever is required for amount ordered.
Please let me know if still interested?
MS
"WARNING! NO UNAUTHORISED USE"
They will take 7-10 days to produce.
Postage will be whatever it costs plus a jiffy bag or whatever is required for amount ordered.
Please let me know if still interested?
MS
Wingy
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Yes, still interested. Put me down for 10 please.
willie_gunn
willie_gunn
MS put me down for 20 please
highseat6.5
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Will definatly have 10 please .pm me details for payment .thanks
An Taín Hunting Outfitter
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go on Online Sign v4 free printable safety sign maker and make your own for free....print and then laminate in an office supplies........that is what I do for our shoot signage.
stalker.308
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2 please!
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