HSE final lead ammunition consultation launched

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The end of lead then, the prohibition will be the placing on the market and use. Will swap lead shot pollution for single use plastic wad pollution unless the biodegradable wads come down in price to that of the single use plastic wads, which will be a challenge as the material used to manufacture biodegradable wads is significantly more in cost.
 
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My read of this is yes Lead shot ban, but not lead bullets.

Lead bullets (Use 2)• No restriction is proposed at this time on the placing on the market or use of lead bullets for live quarry shooting.

Lead in airgun ammunition (Use 3 and 6)• No restriction is proposed at this time on the placing on the market or use of lead in airgun ammunition.

Reading further on the very comprehensive background document, banning lead bullets would be impractical and lead to little to no actual risk reduction, interestingly how they quantify annual emissions measured in 1000's of tons for shot and around 1-2 tons for bullets.
I'd of said BASC, BSSC, GTA ect ect have done a fairly robust job on putting the case forward that banning lead bullets is impractical especially in small calibres, WWT were the only org to try to counteract and their views were a little wooly in comparison to the scientific/technical facts of the orgs.

Interestingly they have taken the disagreements (Orgs vs Manufacturers/SGA/individual users) when the voluntary transition was announced as a reason as to why the voluntary approach wont work.....
 
1 - 2 tons for lead bullets what a load of rubbish, does the government not keep saying it’s decision will be based on facts and science obviously the facts do not need to be the truth.

2 tons is just 770,000 40grain .22lr bullets.

The HSE has an agenda which clearly has nothing to do with the science.
 
1 - 2 tons for lead bullets what a load of rubbish, does the government not keep saying it’s decision will be based on facts and science obviously the facts do not need to be the truth.

2 tons is just 770,000 40grain .22lr bullets.

The HSE has an agenda which clearly has nothing to do with the science.
Apologies this only covers quarry shooting, they are in the 60-70t range for target projectile use. the data was noted as being obtained from Organizations survey of users (p64 of the background document) so not going to be 100% accurate as not everyone would of filled that in.
Still they are not proposing on banning lead bullets and will take the small victories that are there.
 
Little wins 👍

Think i will get a new rimmy to celebrate ( for now at least ) 🤔😁

Can see a big rise in FAC airguns too 👍
 
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Not good reading but not terrible. Really pleased to see that air gun pellets aren’t being made to go non-lead and that the 90% recovery for rifle ranges is being replaced with “as low as reasonably practicable”.

Given the original proposal was pretty much to ban it for all uses and all guns, there are some victories.
 
don’t get to hopeful with regards to lead bullets, they have still to decide, no recommendations yet as i read it.
 

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I have cut and pasted this from the linked document. What must not be allowed is this proposal that a self selected coterie of so called "international athletes" be exempted from the restrictions.

I hope that all here will write to their MP and that the shooting organisations will also lobby to the effect that:

1) There must be no Animal Farm where some are more equal than others. If there is to be a ban on lead shot for outdoor target shooting then let it be a ban for all.

2) There must be compensation where shooters may surrender to the police lead shot ammunition and be paid in full the replacement cost of non-lead ammunition that is suitable in any gun that they possess lawfully that cannot use steel ammunition

THAT AS THIS MEASURE IS FOR THE WIDER BENEFIT THE INDIVIDUAL SHOOTER MUST BE COMPENSATED FOR THE COST THEY WILL INCUR AND THIS MUST ALSO INCLUDE THE COST OF ALTERING ANY GUN BY REBORING THE CHOKE AND/OR FORCING CONES AND REPROOF. THAT IF THE GUN THEN FAILS REPROOF THEN COMPENSATION FOR THE COST OF SUCH WORK PLUS THE VALUE OF THE NOW FAILED PROOF GUN MUST BE PAID.

3) That there must be compensation where shooters may surrender to the police shotguns and be paid a fair compensation value for any shotgun that cannot use steel ammunition - such as damascus barrel guns, vena contracta guns, .22 Rimfire and 9mm Rimfire shotguns, other guns where steel cannot safely be used in that gun.

IF THIS CANNOT BE AGREED TO THEN ON THE SAME BASIS AS THERE BEING A DEROGATION FOR ATHLETES THERE MUST BE A DEROGATION FOR SUCH GUNS WHICH AS ALL ARE LISTED ON A HOLDER'S SGC COULD BE DONE BY MARKING SUCH WITH AN ASTERISK. So that if stopped by any authorities with such gun and lead ammunition the SGC need merely be shown with that asterisk against that gun.


ANYWAY HERE IS WHAT I HAVE CUT AND PASTED:

The Agency for UK REACH concludes that:
• for the environment there are risks that are not adequately controlled forlead shot (primary and secondary exposure), lead bullets (secondaryexposure) and airgun ammunition (primary and secondary exposure)
• amongst consumers of high volumes of game meat that has been shot with lead ammunition (shot or bullets), there is a risk to the health of vulnerable people (young children and women of child-bearing age) that isn ot adequately controlled.

Therefore, the Agency is recommending measures to restrict the use and placing on the market of some types of lead ammunition.
Live quarry shooting (LQS)1 Live quarry shooting with shot - Restriction on the placing on the market and use
Outdoor target shooting (TS)4 Outdoor target shooting with shot - Restriction on the placing on the market and use, with a derogation for individual athletes as identified by the appropriate sporting body
When used for target shooting, lead shot will remain on the surface of the ground where there is a risk of primary poisoning to birds and livestock unless it is immediately collected, which is not considered practical based on information received from ranges during the public consultation on the Annex 15 dossier (HSE,2022).

Similarly, risk management measures are not available at most ranges tomanage the risks to soil and to livestock via secondary poisoning from target shooting.

The most effective risk management option is prohibition on the placing on the market and use of lead shot. By restricting the placing on the market of lead shot for all uses (i.e., both live quarry shooting and target shooting), the effectiveness and compliance of this restriction is increased and subsequent enforcement simplified.
Several UK shooting and rural organisations have voluntarily committed to the use of alternatives to lead shot for live quarry shooting by 2025.


The Agency is aware that the use of lead shot is specified for international competitions in some outdoor target shooting disciplines.

A derogation is proposed to allow individual athletes as identified by the appropriate sporting body to continue to train and compete with lead shot, and suppliers to continue sales of lead shot to these identified athletes.

Transition periods
A transition period for the placing on the market and use of lead shot cartridges of 5years is proposed.

This is based on information provided by manufacturers on reasonable timescales required to scale up production to replace the amount of lead shot currently on the market. This transition period would apply to all uses of lead shot.

Existing voluntary commitments by several UK shooting and rural organisations to use alternatives to lead shot by 2025 for live quarry shooting could still reduce the risks arising from this use during this period, although the Agency notes that these voluntary commitments were not supported by shot manufacturers, who indicated that 2025 would not be achievable for them.
As such, the intended outcomes of the proposed restriction text are outlined below:

- The use of lead shot for live quarry shooting would be prohibited.
- The use of lead shot for target shooting would be prohibited.
However, a derogation will allow for a small number of athletes, as identified by the appropriate sporting body (for example British Shooting), that are required to continue shooting lead shot for the purposes of international competition and training.
- The sale or trade of lead shot (for a price or otherwise) would be prohibited.
However, a derogation will allow for those athletes referenced above to continue to source the lead shot required for international competition and training.

4.4.2.1.1 Shooter substitution costs
The Agency anticipates that, under a restriction on LQS with lead shot, a variety of costs would occur directly to shooters in moving away from lead shot to alternative shot. These costs can be classified as either one-off or on-going costs.
The Agency assumes that all shotguns in current use that can use steel shot do use it in the event of restriction. Steel shot has a significantly lower unit price than bismuth shot (and slightly lower than lead shot), in addition to performing similarly to lead. As such, the Agency does not see a rationale for a shooter choosing bismuth shot if they are able to use steel in their gun(s).
The Agency assumes that 73% of shotguns in use can instantly switch to(standard) steel shot without modification or re-proof.
Additionally, the Agency assumes that a further 5% of shotguns in use could use steel shot following modification.

4.4.2.1.3 Climate impacts
The Agency uses emissions factors (EF) provided by the Bureau of International Recycling (BIR, (2008)) to estimate the resulting change in greenhouse gas (GHG)emissions from a transition from lead shot to alternatives.
The worst-case scenario in terms of climate impacts is one where lead shot, under the baseline, is domestically produced entirely from recycled lead, and under a restriction steel shot is produced from 100% primarily produced steel imported from afar (presumed to be China based on information submitted by Blake International,2022 Organisation #132) (Hurley, 2022).
Under this worst-case scenario, the Agency estimates that a restriction will result in 2,239t CO2/annum compared to 286t CO2/annum under the baseline (from 2025onwards). This equals an annual addition of 1,954t CO2, roughly equal to the average annual carbon footprint of 210 UK citizens (WWF, 2023).
Derogations have been proposed to allow identified athletes to train and compete without obstruction. However, others who aspire to reach that level could be hampered by the inability to train with lead shot which is required for use in international competitions. The Agency will continue to engage with the relevant sporting bodies which are responsible for the selection of the athletes, to help ensure that the correct balance between environmental protection and competitive British shooting is maintained.

It is expected that there will be occasions where GB host international competitions(such as the Olympics) whereby overseas competitors will be required to shoot lead.For these short and infrequent periods of time, the relevant sporting bodies are likely to temporarily specify more athletes under the derogation.

4.6 Potential unintended consequences
It could be a transition period does not give time to gain access to replacement shot before the use of lead shot is restricted. Those using shot will have to stop shooting instead of running the risk of buying lead ammunition which they will be unable to use within a certain time period, or else be out of pocket for this ammunition.
 
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The target shooting outdoors is a bit up in the air as it depends on if the clubs meet the criteria for a derogation which I assume would be based on lead recovery from the backstops.
They seem to think a lot of clubs would comply but it would be more difficult for long range places and the like who are not using traditional sand traps? Its certainly going to push the costs up for clubs.
 
This is wrong in so many ways,

How will future individuals ever become athletes if they cannot complete or learn the skills with lead shot.
Shot is confined over a very small area for clay pigeon shooting.

How will children ever enter the sport without the .410 or 28ga and what about disabled shooters who use them.

This report has just reduced the value of .410, 28ga and a lot of old guns down to zero.
 

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Today, the Health and Safety Executive has launched its final public consultation on lead ammunition restriction proposals, which runs until 10 December.
BASC is reviewing the documentation and will publish guidance on responding to the consultation in the next few days.

Any chance that BASC will follow the lead of FACE in Europe and challenge the basic assumptions made about lead shot in live quarry shooting?
 
The end of lead then, the prohibition will be the placing on the market and use. Will swap lead shot pollution for single use plastic wad pollution unless the biodegradable wads come down in price to that of the single use plastic wads, which will be a challenge as the material used to manufacture biodegradable wads is significantly more in cost.
If only there was a viable and affordable lead shot alternative for all shotgun shooting activities!
 
don’t get to hopeful with regards to lead bullets, they have still to decide, no recommendations yet as i read it.
HSE have buried the detail in their 100+ page summary document - which sets out their position. I actually think this summary table is misleading and the situation is not as bad as feared.

There’s also a lot of detail in the supporting 373 page document.

Essentially, as I read it, no restrictions on lead bullet use for live quarry is suggested or will be implemented.
Recognising also a need to continue to zero a rifle ahead of quarry shooting - and no proposed restrictions on that either. This is confirmed on page 10 of their draft opinion. They actually go further and state it’s just not feasible for what they describe as ‘small’ calibres. See attached excerpt from the opinion for the detail.

They appear to have decided to implement a new calibre definition to differentiate between large and small calibres - so anything under 6.5 is ‘small’ and 6.5+ is ‘large’ They intend to focus considerations on large calibres in terms of lead replacements- which may be part of the reissued consultation? This means they recognise .243 (6mm) struggles to stabilise copper over 100 grains and is in line with the potential change in Scotland to 80 grains.

The HSE seems to be recognising at this time there are limited or no alternatives available for live quarry/target from .22LR and up - and therefore are not seeking to suggest phasing out lead totally for these small calibres.

Restrictions are placed on target shooting outdoors - but with a derogation that if a range adopts guidelines in the NRA safety handbook, they can crack on with lead. As they suggest that as most ranges already adopt this, they anticipate little impact……but I don’t know if that is actually the case? I’m sure a lot of the affiliated ranges do, but know of a couple that have nothing to do with the NRA, so guess we will wait and see. Page 9 of their draft opinion refers.

Overall, (and setting aside the highly impact I’ve restrictions on shot), the lead bullet situation appears relatively balanced and I don’t actually see a significant impact on rifle use.

That said, my interpretation of the 400+ pages of finest HSE text could be way off as I definitely lost the will to live about 65 pages in…..
 

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They were after banning lead shot, so long as they got that then they considered it job done, for now.
WJ will be happy, they will claim another victory. A lot of the authors on the supporting documentation are anti shooting.

But WJ will not stop at that, one look at their blog tells you that.

 
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HSE have buried the detail in their 100+ page summary document - which sets out their position. I actually think this summary table is misleading and the situation is not as bad as feared.

There’s also a lot of detail in the supporting 373 page document.

Essentially, as I read it, no restrictions on lead bullet use for live quarry is suggested or will be implemented.
Recognising also a need to continue to zero a rifle ahead of quarry shooting - and no proposed restrictions on that either. This is confirmed on page 10 of their draft opinion. They actually go further and state it’s just not feasible for what they describe as ‘small’ calibres. See attached excerpt from the opinion for the detail.

They appear to have decided to implement a new calibre definition to differentiate between large and small calibres - so anything under 6.5 is ‘small’ and 6.5+ is ‘large’ They intend to focus considerations on large calibres in terms of lead replacements- which may be part of the reissued consultation? This means they recognise .243 (6mm) struggles to stabilise copper over 100 grains and is in line with the potential change in Scotland to 80 grains.

The HSE seems to be recognising at this time there are limited or no alternatives available for live quarry/target from .22LR and up - and therefore are not seeking to suggest phasing out lead totally for these small calibres.

Restrictions are placed on target shooting outdoors - but with a derogation that if a range adopts guidelines in the NRA safety handbook, they can crack on with lead. As they suggest that as most ranges already adopt this, they anticipate little impact……but I don’t know if that is actually the case? I’m sure a lot of the affiliated ranges do, but know of a couple that have nothing to do with the NRA, so guess we will wait and see. Page 9 of their draft opinion refers.

Overall, (and setting aside the highly impact I’ve restrictions on shot), the lead bullet situation appears relatively balanced and I don’t actually see a significant impact on rifle use.

That said, my interpretation of the 400+ pages of finest HSE text could be way off as I definitely lost the will to live about 65 pages in…..


Though I shoot live quarry I also do target and making the assumption that a lot of them have controls in place for the derogation seems a bit optimistic. Otherwise you are basically looking at copper and unless the price comes down a lot (unlikely) its going to kill off a lot of stuff certainly the smaller calibres such as .22lr are going to not be viable.
At this rate you would be better off apply for FAC air for target as that not affected!
 
I do not know, but I would ask those that have the equipment, to see if the NOISE from plastic wad steel cartridges is lesser, or greater, than the noise from fibre wad lead cartridges. For if the latter this may have a socio-economic impact in that it may force many clay grounds to close down?
 
Because I'm putting off tasks at work, I have had a good read and found this in the linked, and snappily titled "Agency opinion on the Annex15 dossier proposing restrictions on Lead in Ammunition":

When meat from roe deer hunted with lead bullets was fed to growing pigs (as a model for humans, especially children), the absolute bioavailability of the lead cooked in water was 2.7%, whereas in meat that had been marinated in wine and vinegar before cooking it was 15%.


So, seeing as most of us add a generous amount of red wine (if I can prise it from Mrs QM's clenched fist) to our Venison stew, maybe its not salt that adds flavour, it's Lead! :rofl:
 
They were after banning lead shot, so long as they got that then they considered it job done, for now.
WJ will be happy, they will claim another victory. A lot of the authors on the supporting documentation are anti shooting.

But WJ will not stop at that, one look at their blog tells you that.

Former CEO , now honorary life member of BASC , John Swift has contributed to a WJ Blog in support of a lead shot ban - Disgraceful!
 
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