I had to itch to itch!

paul o'

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Now there has been an itch I've had for some time that being around the copper bullets!
So I set about seeing if I can make a bullet that fits the bill and also steps around the monolithic copper bullet and the full lead core I had the idea if I could bring both in play but lean more to the copper bullet that didn't drop shards of copper in the carcass after it expanded with the least amount of lead and zero plastic.
This led me to design a flat base none fragmenting bullet but the three leaves open up like a star ! with an extraordinarily little amount lead as a wedge driver to expand and tear the three copper petals. The design I went for was based on the Phillips screwdriver POZ-2 tip in fact ! as we know should you slip they enter one's ones hand very easily. ( ouch !) so I recon a time tested shape will smash the granny out of any bone out there.?
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As I don’t own a lath anymore, I asked Tim 243 to help bring this bullet to the next step making and testing on paper to see if forgive the pun it Fly's!.
Tim informed me he had an amount of earth rod that he could use and I sent him my design. He made them and as requested he was easily able to get the weight in the semi finish head 132gr spot on! this head was going to have a finished weight of 133gr .
Once I had the heads back from Tim it was time to cut the three petals and fill in the small wedge shape driving hole with 1gr of lead. This can be seen in the above picture and this needs to be finish a little better with the tool iam making so the meplat can be formed more uniformed.
This process took me around 8 mins for the 5 rounds test.
Testing.
This was done as a five-round group at 100 yrs and the charge was based on a Known 130 copper head bullet.
I feel at this point I'v been able to prove that this bullet head is extremely
accurate.
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and the next step is on ballistic gel both 100yrd and 500yrs.
Thanks for looking in :scared::coat:
 
Sounds very interesting 🧐 you could be on to someone look forward to see what the results are of the rest of your testing 🤞
 
The new Poz drive tip sounds catchy, look forward to seeing that on a box of factory rounds. I think that you should drill a bit (lot) more out of the front fill with a bit (lot) more lead then cap off with a plastic tip, Poz drive if you insist, then we may have a copper bullet that actually works on Roe deer. Hang on a minute, did I just describe a Nosler Ballistic Tip.
 
The new Poz drive tip sounds catchy, look forward to seeing that on a box of factory rounds. I think that you should drill a bit (lot) more out of the front fill with a bit (lot) more lead then cap off with a plastic tip, Poz drive if you insist, then we may have a copper bullet that actually works on Roe deer. Hang on a minute, did I just describe a Nosler Ballistic Tip.
I wanted to pocket out the centre but Paul said stick to the drawing please..
One thing is they are tiny on a big old lathe with a few scrapped undersize... :cry:
 
Interesting project though I’m not sure the addition of lead is a benefit for several reasons. You have a similar but more agricultural design rationale to the Virtus Precision design with larger but less deep cuts My suspicion is that the small lead petals will shear off on impact and you will end up with a long flat tipped solid. Drilling a hollow point beyond the depth of the cuts would hopefully allow greater expansion of the bullet shank. I suspect the diameter and depth of any hollow point would be fairly critical to the tendency to fragment petals or to maintain mass.
 
Interesting project though I’m not sure the addition of lead is a benefit for several reasons. You have a similar but more agricultural design rationale to the Virtus Precision design with larger but less deep cuts My suspicion is that the small lead petals will shear off on impact and you will end up with a long flat tipped solid. Drilling a hollow point beyond the depth of the cuts would hopefully allow greater expansion of the bullet shank. I suspect the diameter and depth of any hollow point would be fairly critical to the tendency to fragment petals or to maintain mass.
as above - Sako powerhead blade went through the same design concept and ended with the same looking tip, set into a hollow point. Think an expansion chamber will be required
 
Now there has been an itch I've had for some time that being around the copper bullets!
So I set about seeing if I can make a bullet that fits the bill and also steps around the monolithic copper bullet and the full lead core I had the idea if I could bring both in play but lean more to the copper bullet that didn't drop shards of copper in the carcass after it expanded with the least amount of lead and zero plastic.
This led me to design a flat base none fragmenting bullet but the three leaves open up like a star ! with an extraordinarily little amount lead as a wedge driver to expand and tear the three copper petals. The design I went for was based on the Phillips screwdriver POZ-2 tip in fact ! as we know should you slip they enter one's ones hand very easily. ( ouch !) so I recon a time tested shape will smash the granny out of any bone out there.?
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As I don’t own a lath anymore, I asked Tim 243 to help bring this bullet to the next step making and testing on paper to see if forgive the pun it Fly's!.
Tim informed me he had an amount of earth rod that he could use and I sent him my design. He made them and as requested he was easily able to get the weight in the semi finish head 132gr spot on! this head was going to have a finished weight of 133gr .
Once I had the heads back from Tim it was time to cut the three petals and fill in the small wedge shape driving hole with 1gr of lead. This can be seen in the above picture and this needs to be finish a little better with the tool iam making so the meplat can be formed more uniformed.
This process took me around 8 mins for the 5 rounds test.
Testing.
This was done as a five-round group at 100 yrs and the charge was based on a Known 130 copper head bullet.
I feel at this point I'v been able to prove that this bullet head is extremely
accurate.
View attachment 358656
and the next step is on ballistic gel both 100yrd and 500yrs.
Thanks for looking in :scared::coat:

Did you post this thread 59 minutes too early last night?
 
Expansion on fallow could be catastrophic might need a good field test
Pretty fastidious to make but if it does the job in the field, then well done
Should get a better grip with a pozi head mind
 
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