Is an FAC worth it ?

[Deerhunter22]

If you are worried about GP costs just call and ask them, what can it hurt.

You also dont have to invest £ks, you could get a secondhand package for £500 which is one holiday abroad that you do once and the money is gone.

If you spent a grand on a setup and then got rid its only 10 or so nights on the p*ss in a year.

Stop scaring yourself over the thought of having it revoked.

haha lol no not scaring myself anything would be revoked don't know how it could was more meant to ask what happens if it was i.e do you lose your rights to it and do you lose the money you have invested in the rifle act or is it still your item in law and therefore for you to gets sold. I am as you just scaring myself over nothing really.

 

[potshotpat]

haha lol no not scaring myself anything would be revoked don't know how it could was more meant to ask what happens if it was i.e do you lose your rights to it and do you lose the money you have invested in the rifle act or is it still your item in law and therefore for you to gets sold. I am as you just scaring myself over nothing really.

I'm not sure your helping yourself with some of your replies. I may be wrong, people are trying to give you advice to help you out.But good luck anyway. I'll bet all the advice that's being given is from people on this forum that have and are entitled to thier tickets...

 

[nick.308]

Get your FAC and Shotgun cert together. Stalking is far better when you use your own set up. Also solo stalking is far better than guided. Its the challenge of you versus nature. Also your already at a massive advantage being in scotland surrounded by bambi

 

[Deerhunter22]

I'm not sure your helping yourself with some of your replies. I may be wrong, people are trying to give you advice to help you out.But good luck anyway. I'll bet all the advice that's being given is from people on this forum that have and are entitled to thier tickets...

I absolutely bet aswell that most on here will be far approved and offering advice. My somewhat sarcastic comment was because yours wasn't advice in any shape or form and to say good luck with what I intererepted as sarcasm isn't exactly helpful

 

[Bavarianbrit]

I lucked out when I no longer had the two referees needed for signing off for an FAC when only one who was still good for me to sign off for the SGC. In Germany if you have no police record you are allowed the certs. Sure it affects only a few folk but it caught me out as I spend 10 moths overseas so I have no circle of UK resident acquaintances.

 

[hoodwink]

cheers lol that’s the dream that a solo stalk into some nice tor bucks or at least that’s mine.
i am planning on an fac application just getting the ball rolling need my med done before anything else which is easier said than done given they can refuse. Might just with the prices I’m hearing off just go to medcert least you know the price and it’s seems fair compared to others and what they’ve paid

Check with your doctor it costs nothing to ask, ie do they do firearms forms and what price. You know what Medcert cost but they are slower than your doc.

 

[JTO]

Getting an FAC in my experience is not a big deal. It sounds to me that your concern is more related to the cost? Joining a local club could help. You can get your FAC and use club rifles for club shoots. For stalking, estate rifles are often available. If you are having serious doubts then maybe its not for you?

This all sounds like a wind-up to me.

 

[potshotpat]

I absolutely bet aswell that most on here will be far approved and offering advice. My somewhat sarcastic comment was because yours wasn't advice in any shape or form and to say good luck with what I intererepted as sarcasm isn't exactly helpful

Yep I think you've got it . Advice take it or leave it. Then move on. As I said good luck.

 

[Pete1774]

See with certs do you just contact the doctor ? I was going to just use medcert for an ease and less hassle also don’t want to get a medical done by a doctor who then try’s to charge 400 like one I’ve hear of in Edinburgh seems outrageous that for someone who doesn’t know you to say yes think he is trust worthy

There's no problem with using MedCert, especially if your local GP is milking the system, although not all of them do. Worth asking how much your GP will charge. MedCert is £60 for comparison.

 

[Loler UK]

Think a lot of the revocation stuff is overstated. Figures from police Scotland annual report (2021-2022) show 874 granted with 23 refused, 5861 renewed with 14 refused and only 61 revoked.

That doesn't include voluntary surrender, most fac terminate through 'choice' but many have been advised to do so by their feo/ doctor etc.

 

[andyk]

No one here can guarantee you won’t e the subject of an unjustified revocation.

All people on here can say is that very few, if any, have first hand experience (either themselves or people they know well enough to have the full facts) of FACs being revoked for no reason. There are probably a few more examples of questionable revocations but with those you can usually see where the police are coming from, even if you don’t agree.

I’d say take that as more useful than some bloke on YouTube.

 

[Deerhunter22]

No one here can guarantee you won’t e the subject of an unjustified revocation.

All people on here can say is that very few, if any, have first hand experience (either themselves or people they know well enough to have the full facts) of FACs being revoked for no reason. There are probably a few more examples of questionable revocations but with those you can usually see where the police are coming from, even if you don’t agree.

I’d say take that as more useful than some bloke on YouTube.

Lol just me trying to put barriers up for no reason. I know full well there will be justified reasoning. Just watched too much YouTube today particularly on the FAC'S and it all seems negative towards FAC's but as you say. there will be justified revocation and possibly unjust ones but let it be and apply is what I take from your comment and thats what I intend to do. It was for me more the worry of if you had to surrender or was revoked for not surrendering what happens to your rifles ect. But found my answers all is good

 

[Morkai]

I hope you haven't been watching that English Shooting sh*te with Callum whatshisbollocks.

 

[MAH]

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Just wondering what others think is the hassle and risks worth it.

It's a really good question.

It's akin to asking whether to rent a car or buy one, and it depends on the frequency of use.

If you enjoyed used the estate rifle a few times a year, that is a perfectly good way of going stalking.

Owning your own rifle brings additional pleasure but additional responsibility and cost.

It depends on how often you go out.

M

 

[User00057]

If you want to go for it and feel you have reason to have it and think there is nothing that will pop up to stop you then I say go for it. It’s the best thing I did when I first applied. Shooting and stalking is my life now.
As much as you can go cheap and get good kit it still costs as let’s face it, we all like new shiny stuff to spend money on.

 

[Deerhunter22]

I hope you haven't been watching that English Shooting sh*te with Callum whatshisbollocks.

Yeh I might hav jaga

 

[Deerhunter22]

If you want to go for it and feel you have reason to have it and think there is nothing that will pop up to stop you then I say go for it. It’s the best thing I did when I first applied. Shooting and stalking is my life now.
As much as you can go cheap and get good kit it still costs as let’s face it, we all like new shiny stuff to spend money on.

Lol exactly that. I’d look to cheap out on the rifle a little bit more and get a half decent scope but as you say no doubt u see that shiny thing and go oh must have

 

[Bowland blades]

Hi, I want to apply for an FAC I’ve been on quite a few guided stalks now but want to take that next step to getting an FAC then possibly more chance securing my own land afterwards.
But with all my research, YouTube ect I’m just having 2nd thoughts. It sounds like even without reason they can revoke certificates, and that it’s just in general hassle trying to obtain and maintain a certificate. The obtaining side of things is reasonable, don’t want to be handing out the rights to a rifle to a drug dealer not that I would imagine that kind of person even applys for one lol but you get my point.
Just wondering what others think is the hassle and risks worth it. Wouldn’t ever want a revocation to end in a loss of a lot of money I’ve read and heard the horror story’s especially in the wake of tht Plymouth shooting a few years ago. I’m in Scotland btw

First thing , you do not have to spend crazy money on a stalking rifle ! I wouldn't go crazy about getting your own ground , there is a lot of rubbish ground available and paid stalking trips give you mobility all over the UK and abroad . Think on it , do you really want to repeat a similar experience in the same places over and over again in the same spots ?
Booked stalks ? you can go all over the UK and further and have very different experiences.
Dont be put off with licence issues , so long as you dont act inappropriately or commit crime your hobby will be all good.
In time you tend to gain contacts and make good friends , this leads to more shooting all over the place . Personally i have only paid for one stalk in the last decade plus and i do not have any leases , just landowner consent and invites etc etc
If you say did 6 successful stalks a year that is enough for an average family meat wise , in deed the issue tends to be getting through what you take . I dont sell venison instead i gift it , we have more than the family can face eating and dogs can or should eat
A decent 6x42 scope a second hand quality rifle can certainly be had well under a grand

 

[Miki]

haha lol no not scaring myself anything would be revoked don't know how it could was more meant to ask what happens if it was i.e do you lose your rights to it and do you lose the money you have invested in the rifle act or is it still your item in law and therefore for you to gets sold.

What comes fist ... the answer is the FAC, you can't own a rifle until you have your certificate granted.
No one can sell you a rifle until you show them your FAC which has an entitlement to posses on it (a slot).

No FAC
No slot
No rifle .... simples.

 

[25 Sharps]

Hi, I want to apply for an FAC I’ve been on quite a few guided stalks now but want to take that next step to getting an FAC then possibly more chance securing my own land afterwards.
But with all my research, YouTube ect I’m just having 2nd thoughts. It sounds like even without reason they can revoke certificates, and that it’s just in general hassle trying to obtain and maintain a certificate. The obtaining side of things is reasonable, don’t want to be handing out the rights to a rifle to a drug dealer not that I would imagine that kind of person even applys for one lol but you get my point.
Just wondering what others think is the hassle and risks worth it. Wouldn’t ever want a revocation to end in a loss of a lot of money I’ve read and heard the horror story’s especially in the wake of tht Plymouth shooting a few years ago. I’m in Scotland btw

If you’ve been watching the English Shooting you tube channel, stop.

The guy is a narcissist with a chip on his shoulder as his licence got revoked and knows very little about shooting or field shooting.

It’s definitely worth it if stalking is something you enjoy.

You do sound a tad paranoid in your posts!