Is BASC membership worth it?

[finnbear270]

They don't have to explain or issue the minutes of every meeting. That would be ridiculous. Regardless, they don't need to because 99% of the members are intelligent enough to know the obvious answers without an explanation.

That sounds like an explanation from a Chinese government spokesperson.

 

[Greenmist]

You're doing yourself no favours. The fact that you mentioned it confirms to me that you full well know that they couldn't claim costs because they weren't being taken to court and simply volunteered their time, money and expertise to the fight. Something that they couldn't have done if they had wasted it on stuff like fighting lead bans!

With the current snowflake agenda, I'll concede the lead issue, now perhaps you can defend them on the medical fee's and licensing reform as they actively avoid it

 

[Greenmist]

They don't have to explain or issue the minutes of every meeting. That would be ridiculous. Regardless, they don't need to because 99% of the members are intelligent enough to know the obvious answers without an explanation.

Can I also remind everyone of the contempt the membership were treated with regarding the Ali affair, nothing to see here seemed to be the mantra

 

[kes]

There are 3/4 members who always unconditionally support BASC you can see who they are.
Many members have made a different choice for very many good reasons. I don't see the good BASC does anywhere near approaching the bad recently.
All the 'positives' are, without exceptions, BASC's view of its own successes - I do not agree with the stock phrases from BASC and I think it confirms how archaic the organisation is in its approach to its job.Others, including WJ have said the same.
Life membership buys you 20 years plus of annual subscriptions, hardly a discount for loyalty ?
Many more shooters are determined to get value for money and a strong voice in support than previously, largely because in a few headline issues recently BASC has not consulted its members or succeeded, relying on representation at Council and officer 'control' of those meetings.
BASC can blame no-one for its decline but itself and that in a nutshell is helping those arrayed against shooting.

Time for amalgamation, concentration (strategic agenda), effective performance measures (which includes member surveys like Parliament) and a few apologies but its only my opinion.

More are now critical than are supportive - even in this thread, worth a bit of reflective self examination ?
I doubt it will happen.

A timely reminder that some people never learn that their view is ridiculed

Corbyn: ‘Crazy beyond belief’ for UK to enter defence pact with US and Australia​

 

[baguio]

That sounds like an explanation from a Chinese government spokesperson.

It also sounds like how most companies in the world operate. Board meeting are for the board members and not every Tom, Dick and Harry. Indeed, I highly suspect that it to display the minutes of the board meeting in a public forum would be illegal for many companies in this world. I also suspect that you don't know much about how companies bigger than one man bands work?

 

[baguio]

IMO, BASC do not speak for most of us.

Why should they speak for you? You don't pay in so have no right to expect anything from them! What does your provider do for shooting?

 

[Rewulf]

simply volunteered their time, money and expertise to the fight.

They say they put £140,000 out of their fighting fund into it, knowing full well they couldn't claim costs.
And here's me thinking they've got legal bods on the payroll, drawing salaries?
What was the money spent on.?

Do you really think that was proper use of funds, when it was NRW being taken to court.?
They said themselves that there wasn't a cat in hells chance of WJ winning, so why spend the resources?

 

[moonstone gsp]

Having just been embroiled in legal action with my business and my insurers picking up the tab I can assure you that when the courts and legal fraternity start you can burn 10s of thousands. I just think that your average person is totally oblivious to costs associated with any legal action no matter how small.

 

[kes]

Why should they speak for you? You don't pay in so have no right to expect anything from them! What does your provider do for shooting?

This argument is at best specious and at worst, blind to the facts. Many shooters have dropped memberships as a result of the dictatorial 'voluntary' lead ban - without apparently any meaningful consultation, or by way of emolient, a decent explanation.
We all know these are oand many more are old arguments which resurface when unsubstantiated claims are made about insurance/ support for shooting and so on.
We all know the solutions.
Better for those who have strong minds to make their own decisions and not be swayed by arguments about 'paying for a voice' or 'not supporting shooting'
On the facts alone I would leave the decision to those to whom thought is normal, not like some sheep who bleat a spoon -fed agenda.

 

[sikamalc]

Gentlemen, I think this thread is done.
The proof is plain to see with membership of any organisation, you leave if not satisfied and join somewhere else.

 

[gerarddwatts]

Blaadiblaaadiblaadi blaaah.......

 

[jimmy milnes]

Time for amalgamation, concentration (strategic agenda), effective performance measures (which includes member surveys like Parliament)

Totally agree, unfortunately as has been mentioned previously, who out of any of the organisations would want this as it could end up as a vote for their own P45..
Regards Jimmy