Ivermectin, for the interested

[mchughcb]

 

[mchughcb]

It could be just because the percentage of people over 80 is quite low in bangledesh and papau new guinea too?

 

[BryanDC]

Not sure that stacks up

Bangladesh has had around 547k cases of covid 19 and approx 8400 deaths, so around one in 65 cases results in death
India has had 11,124,527 cases and 157,248 deaths, so around one in every 70 cases
The demographic of both countries is very similar with approx 27-28% under 15, 64-67% 15-64 and only just over 5% over 65 (the vulnerable ones). India is not using Ivermectin as it is suggested that Bangladesh is.

The UK has a much higher percentage of over 65s 18% + so as a matter of course you would expect there to be a much higher percentage of deaths in the UK and that seems to be the case. with a ratio of 1 death per 34 cases. That's still surprisingly high for a developed western country. Other countries in europe buck that trend Belgium with similar demographics has 1 death in every 70 reported cases. Not using Ivermectin. Denmark again with similar demographics to the UK 1 death for every 89 cases reported, not using ivermectin.

Isn't it simply that they have a younger population and therefore not as susceptible to covid-19? Could under reporting of the situation also be a factor?

Papua New Guinea seem to be experincing a rapid increase in cases right now but information is sketchy at best. They also have a very young population with similar demographic to India and Bangladesh.

Interestingly I saw something about a huge trial, with 20000 participants that was going to take place to determine the effectiveness of alternative and repurposed drugs to fight Covid-19. I don't think Ivermectin was a part of it though. It still begs the question. If Ivermectin is the cheap effective solution that some are suggesting, Why isn't there anyone in western Europe or North America using it already to save their population and their economy.

 

[Freeforester]

Why isn't there anyone in western Europe or North America using it already to save their population and their economy.

Slovakia have been using Ivermectin. In the USA now doctors have the ability to prescribe Ivermectin, following the change in stance toward it by their National Institute of Health (NIH), their governing body. Trouble is, they can’t make money out of it. Their health service is an ’illness treatment service’ and the more money they can make the better off they are, it’s not like the Danish or most European health service models.



How it works:

 

[BryanDC]

Slovakia have been using Ivermectin. In the USA now doctors have the ability to prescribe Ivermectin, following the change in stance toward it by their National Institute of Health (NIH), their governing body. Trouble is, they can’t make money out of it. Their health service is an ’illness treatment service’ and the more money they can make the better off they are, it’s not like the Danish or most European health service models.



How it works:

As I understand the information available. The slovakian government has said that doctors must take full responsibility for giving patients Ivermectin.

Also a statement from one of the manufacturers.

403 Access Denied

• No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
• No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
• A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.

 

[Freeforester]

Check out the response of FLCCC

 

[BryanDC]

Much as would be expected from FLCCC

 

[Freeforester]

Portuguese doctors support Ivermectin to treat early signs of Covid-19 – Portugal Resident

Portuguese doctors divided over use of Ivermectin to treat early stages of Covid-19, but those that support it are adamant that it works.

www.portugalresident.com

 

[Freeforester]

Much as would be expected from FLCCC

The inertia of thinking, personified. Don’t trouble yourself thinking

 

[Dalua]

The inertia of thinking, personified. Don’t trouble yourself thinking

Does it not count as thinking if the thinker come to conclusions that are different from yours?

 

[Freeforester]

It’s a thought, eh?

 

[Freeforester]

A précis of Dr Lawrie's meta analysis, run through by Dr John Campbell.

Seems like the other man in the slow lane is in Whitehall.

 

[mchughcb]

That's very interesting.

 

[Freeforester]

A piece by Dr. Pierre Kory, commenting on the situation in the US, where information concerning the therapeutic effects of Ivermectin are being ignored or censored, to the ultimate cost of patients there

Censorship Kills: The Shunning of a COVID Therapeutic | RealClearPolitics

Doctors fighting COVID-19 should be supported by their profession and their government, not suppressed. Yet today physicians are smothered under a wave of...

www.realclearpolitics.com

 

[Freeforester]

Another illuminating thread from Dr Mobeen Syed, on another aspect of the virus, and how Ivermectin combats
this ’extrcellular’ coagulation caused by the virus, particularly in hospitalised or deteriorating patients. Might be of possible interest given today’s news from Denmark, Norway and Iceland.

 

[Freeforester]

In a similar ‘vein’ as #174:

 

[Freeforester]

Dr Tess Laurie skinning the cat, again!
Some very salient points, particularly 23 minutes in.

 

[Freeforester]

Global Medical & Scientific Authorities Warn Governments on the Consequences of Inaction on Ivermectin for COVID-19

Leading Experts Discuss the Latest Research on Preventing & Treating COVID-19 with Ivermectin and Call for its Immediate Global Use to End the Pandemic.

www.einnews.com

 

[mealiejimmy]

Steve, nobody's listening

Cheers

Bruce

 

[mchughcb]

Well the title says for those that are interested. I find it interesting. Especially as we temporarily halted the astra zeneca vaccine we need to keep an eye out for other methods with dealing with the diaease.