JANUARY SD PRIZE WINNERS
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Simple. As I suggested, you'd just need to be vouched for as a decent chap by any of the long standing prolific posters.
A well-known auction site everyone uses without much quibble charges whatever it is ...7-12%ish.
I can't see any reason to object to paying up to 10% for things over a tenner, with a limit of maybe £20, and perhaps an option to list for free for those doing charity sales.
And I'm fairly miserly with shopping.
I can't see any reason to object to paying up to 10% for things over a tenner, with a limit of maybe £20, and perhaps an option to list for free for those doing charity sales.
And I'm fairly miserly with shopping.
I agree completely with your comments so I became a supporter today.
HonestJohn
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Just remove the classifieds and you’ll quickly see who are here for the right reasons
Good. Let them that join and make minimum contribution to then list on classifieds go to Pigeon Watch where you see folk on a weekly basis join and their first or second post is listing something for sale.
ColinBr
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Well the answers and the bickering alone in this thread should paint a clear view of why this is a bad idea.
The entitled will puff their chests out all the more.
Keep the forum as it is.
There's a reason it is the most frequented and it's not for the sales. I've watched the airgun forum go south for this very reason over the past 2 years to the point where I think I've been on once in 6 months.
The entitled will puff their chests out all the more.
Keep the forum as it is.
There's a reason it is the most frequented and it's not for the sales. I've watched the airgun forum go south for this very reason over the past 2 years to the point where I think I've been on once in 6 months.
The fact there has been little call for Classifieds seller feedback ratings says a lot about both the calibre of Stalking Directory member and their transactional conduct.
I therfore don't believe linking the ability to sell kit on this site with Supporter status will negatively impact what is - for 99% of the time - a secure place to do business. Nor will it limit the volume and quality of items put up for sale.
K
I therfore don't believe linking the ability to sell kit on this site with Supporter status will negatively impact what is - for 99% of the time - a secure place to do business. Nor will it limit the volume and quality of items put up for sale.
K
But this isn't a auction site which is a good thing. Auction sites don't ask their members to provide content for others to read and enjoy.
sikamalc
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My other thought was to have a Star rating for sellers using classifieds.
We have also pointed out to buyers that checking a persons rating as far as what they have put on the site, and looking at when they joined is important. It gives some indication of whether they have just joined and posted. If they are new to the site, and have no previous sales I would caution approaching and buying. Also anyone who cuts in on another persons for sale item and claims they have one cheaper.
We do rely on the site members to point any such issues out to Admin so we may take action.
We are also NOT an auction site, nor do we ever intend to be.
We have also pointed out to buyers that checking a persons rating as far as what they have put on the site, and looking at when they joined is important. It gives some indication of whether they have just joined and posted. If they are new to the site, and have no previous sales I would caution approaching and buying. Also anyone who cuts in on another persons for sale item and claims they have one cheaper.
We do rely on the site members to point any such issues out to Admin so we may take action.
We are also NOT an auction site, nor do we ever intend to be.
ColinBr
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That is a far better idea.
Old Pultney
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I personally don’t post much as I don’t feel I have much to contribute but SD is a great site and has a wealth of information in it. I’m more than happy to become a supporter to support the site and will do so later.
I became a supporter as the site is great and wanted to contribute to keeping it running, not because I sell a high volume of things. If the costs of running the classifieds section is becoming too high versus the income, then I think having for sale threads free for supporters and a nominal fee per thread for non supporters (50p? £1?) would be very reasonable. That caters to both those who want to sell often and those who just want to sell a thing every other year
Not sure how much it would weed out scammers and the like, I figure if someone fancies scamming someone out of £100, what's a £1 fee to do so? They've still made £99.
The only thing that could help get around that is the seller feedback system like you mentioned
Whatever you decide to implement, as long as it's still free to buy and browse, I don't think that would cause you any detriment to the forum
Not sure how much it would weed out scammers and the like, I figure if someone fancies scamming someone out of £100, what's a £1 fee to do so? They've still made £99.
The only thing that could help get around that is the seller feedback system like you mentioned
Whatever you decide to implement, as long as it's still free to buy and browse, I don't think that would cause you any detriment to the forum
Up to you to assess how big an issue dodgy sellers are but it sounds like a minority thus how necessary is making a change? Many of the methods suggested above put the onus on or add a cost to the majority to to show good standing whilst concurrently trying to disincentivise the minority of dodgy individuals. To be effective, any onus/cost would need to be significant enough to put off bad actors and cover the costs of running the system but will also reduce those using the system legitimately.
Seems a similar thought process to firearms licencing.
I don't envy you trying to square the circle on the best way forward although I think the key question is my first sentence. At the end of the day it's your forum, right?
Seems a similar thought process to firearms licencing.
I don't envy you trying to square the circle on the best way forward although I think the key question is my first sentence. At the end of the day it's your forum, right?
Given that the vast majority of people on the forum have little idea who anyone else really is, how would this proposed recommendation system work - at least in a manner that meant anything? That’s aside from whether the number of posts a member has made makes them any more or less trustworthy let alone able to vouch for anyone else.
Stalking is a small world. There's always someone who knows someone else, or has had dealings with them.
You see it already on here from time to time. Someone will post something up for sale, and someone else will chip in saying "I've bought from this guy before, and he's sound to deal with".
As for post count, well usually the rogues are weeded out before their post count gets very high. But if in doubt, look also at reaction score relative to post count.
No, but there'd have to be a line drawn somewhere just to give the system some kind of structure.
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