London fireworks

[Shootgun]

Not sure how a thread about fireworks has been turned into yet another anti immigration bully fest. Getting a bit pathetic now.

Doesn't every thread turns into an immigration thread lately?

 

[Goingback]

Not sure how a thread about fireworks has been turned into yet another anti immigration bully fest. Getting a bit pathetic now.

I do hope this is not aimed at me. I have stated that I feel sorry for them....although I haven't stayed in a four-star hotel (couldn't afford it) but can only guess at the squalor and hardship, poor souls.

Happy New Year (not pathetic)

 

[Pedro]

It's always a quandary. There's never going to be enough money to fund everything. Social services, housing, policing, roads, I could go on. But does that mean, as a country we shouldn't spend some money on celebrating occasionally? It's all a question of degree of course. Were those fireworks too expensive? Will they bring joy to many and promote London, so bringing in more trade revenue? Or did it all just go up in smoke?

I can see both sides of this argument and on this, I think I'm tottering on the fence.

 

[Goingback]

Christmas is also supposed to be a time to think about others LESS fortunate than us, hence the immigration and traveler threads. Such a humanitarian considerate bunch most of us are.
Shame that a few try to bully us.

 

[Apthorpe]

Not sure how a thread about fireworks has been turned into yet another anti immigration bully fest. Getting a bit pathetic nonow.

Well, someone complained about the cost of fireworks in London and made a silly comment about homeless people. The reason there are homeless people in London is because many of the houses are occupied by immigrants and the maximum possible rate of building new houses is lower than the rate at which more immigrants arrive. It has nothing to do with a "bully fest"; I'd suggest the only people arguably being bullied are the homeless.

 

[Hunter300]

Apparently the fireworks in London tonight cost around 2.5 million.

Maybe I'm a grumpy git, but personally I'd have rather they make do with few sparklers & spend that cash on the London homeless

Well said

 

[nun_hunter]

Well, someone complained about the cost of fireworks in London and made a silly comment about homeless people. The reason there are homeless people in London is because many of the houses are occupied by immigrants and the maximum possible rate of building new houses is lower than the rate at which more immigrants arrive. It has nothing to do with a "bully fest"; I'd suggest the only people arguably being bullied are the homeless.

Many of the houses occupied by immigrants are no doubt private landlords with multiple properties leasing direct to the council preventing first time buyers from getting their own home.

You can spin it any way you like depending on your world view.

 

[Apthorpe]

Many of the houses occupied by immigrants are no doubt private landlords with multiple properties leasing direct to the council preventing first time buyers from getting their own home.

First Time Buyers aren't the issue, the homeless are.

You can spin it any way you like depending on your world view.

Accepting your argument on who owns the houses in question (which is highly controversial given the facts), however you spin it and whatever world view you have, my point remains correct.

 

[Smellydog]

The world is FUBAR!

 

[BenBhoy]

The reason there are homeless people in London is because many of the houses are occupied by immigrants

Now that's a "silly comment about homeless people"

 

[Apthorpe]

Now that's a "silly comment about homeless people"

It's possibly inexact but not silly. It would have been more accurate had I said that the homeless would be oversupplied with accommodation in the absence of immigrants, but that their other problems would not necessarily have been solved.

 

[nick.308]

Apparently it said " The Mayor of London presents"
Should have said " My ULEZ scheme pays for......"

Im sure most folk would prefer no fireworks and no ULEZ.....................
How can one who's trying to improve Londons Air Quality justify that? Just a load of pollution in my eyes.
Hypocrisy at its finest

 

[jimmer.13]

 

[Bomag]

We used to live next to neighbours who were both adults on disability / carer allowance / new mobility car every two years ... but the wife who was allegedly an MS sufferer was on a stick or in a wheelchair coming out the front ... & on a stepladder round the back with the hedge trimmer.
So I agree.

As an MS sufferer, who walks with a stick and drives a car with hand controls, I can tell you that you have good and bad days. Days when you can barely get out of bed and others when you can climb a ladder and cut the hedge. The new car will be every 3 years as it will be a motobility car, leasehold, paid for by PIP.
It's always a joy being judged because I don't look "disabled" and therefore shouldn't be using a blue badge. The ignorance of those that judge the disabled is beyond my comprehension, try spending a day in their shoes and then, maybe, you will change your view of disability.

 

[Benelli m2]

Round here half the people walk with a cane and put on a bit of a limp, then as soon as they get out of sight into their council housing, they skip along with the bag full of shopping from the extremely overpriced corner shop…whose owner is a known drug dealer to the local trailer park as well ..amazing how a small town corner shop owner can have a new BMW every month isn’t it?

Good for them I expect there passed of reading how much it cost to keep these bloody boat people in hotels

 

[BenBhoy]

As an MS sufferer, who walks with a stick and drives a car with hand controls, I can tell you that you have good and bad days. Days when you can barely get out of bed and others when you can climb a ladder and cut the hedge. The new car will be every 3 years as it will be a motobility car, leasehold, paid for by PIP.
It's always a joy being judged because I don't look "disabled" and therefore shouldn't be using a blue badge. The ignorance of those that judge the disabled is beyond my comprehension, try spending a day in their shoes and then, maybe, you will change your view of disability.

You're about right there pal. Before my son was born, I admit I was probably ignorant of the difficulties in everyday tasks that disabled people face in this country. To think we are supposed to be such an advanced, progressive country - there is still a big void in terms of fairness for all. It's when the most simple events are made harder, that's when you really are made to feel 'different'.

 

[Island]

Many of the responses on this thread would not be out of place in the Daily Mail comments section.

 

[Apthorpe]

Many of the responses on this thread would not be out of place in the Daily Mail comments section.

That's no surprise. The Daily Mail is, by far, the leading newspaper in the UK for readership.
If you mean to say "it's so ghastly what all these plebs think, I despise them", then say it.

 

[BenBhoy]

That's no surprise. The Daily Mail is, by far, the leading newspaper in the UK for readership.
If you mean to say "it's so ghastly what all these plebs think, I despise them", then say it.

I think plebs is too polite for daily fail readers.

 

[Island]

That's no surprise. The Daily Mail is, by far, the leading newspaper in the UK for readership.
If you mean to say "it's so ghastly what all these plebs think, I despise them", then say it.

Your first line epitomises our clearly contrary opinions. You believe the Daily Mail to be a newspaper, I believe it to be a vitriolic hate-rag.

Your second line is the usual arrogant, condescending, partronising, superiority-complex hogwash that many have come to expect from you.

Back on the list you go...