Long range target rifle
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StephenToast
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Sharps Big Fifty, octagonal 34-inch barrel, firing a .50, 600-grain bullet driven by 125 grains of black powder.
Great rifle but I really would like one with a magazine
StephenToast
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I'm sure the salesman would throw in a copy of readers wives if you ask nicely?
Moynish Ivy
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Agreed. I have one. It's incredible.this
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What's the difference between the ST-18 and the STR mk2? I've been looking at getting one but cannot choose between them.
Rewulf
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Me too , but in the end I didnt.
The STR had a longer barrel , different stock , and was about £400 more expensive...originally.
Now they appear to be similarly priced, and my feeling is the STR is being phased out for the newer ST 18.
Spec wise , I couldnt really see much difference.
I would try and handle both if you can.
Thanks for this advice @Muir. The kind of real world experience I need to hear about.
Thanks @dropmdead. I have been chatting to someone else today who said exactly this as well. Fits my budget and may be more appealing to my FEO than a variation for a 300 win mag too.
Thanks @Ronin. Sounds like I should consider a 7mm magnum chambering as well as the 300 win mag / 300PRC. I think this evening I will be reading up about the ballistic pros and cons of the .30 magnums against 7mm magnums.
Ronin
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Both seven and thirty will get you to a mile
You run out of usualble weight class with 7mm at 180/190 grain which can be marginal to stabilise (190 grain that is) and 230 g with 30 cal
A big trade off with the 30 is recoil especially with 230’s
I’ve built numerous F class rifles in both which whilst the max competition range is 1200 yd if you don’t tell the bullets, both will happily travel to beyond a mile And remain supersonic, stable and accurate
My preference for a longer range rifle cartridge would be a 7/ 300wsm or straight 300 wsm
Without going into larger calibres and higher budget (read 338, 375, 408 class cartridges ) you will find a compromise with 7/30 cal
You also need to factor in a suitable scope mount with adjustable incline or high fixed incline and a suitably large adjustment scope with repeat accurate tracking
Load development
Shooting abolity
Wind reading ability
Stable rest
Accurate base rifle
All other factors to take into account to a facet of shooting that can be a real money pit and high grain factor at the same time
You run out of usualble weight class with 7mm at 180/190 grain which can be marginal to stabilise (190 grain that is) and 230 g with 30 cal
A big trade off with the 30 is recoil especially with 230’s
I’ve built numerous F class rifles in both which whilst the max competition range is 1200 yd if you don’t tell the bullets, both will happily travel to beyond a mile And remain supersonic, stable and accurate
My preference for a longer range rifle cartridge would be a 7/ 300wsm or straight 300 wsm
Without going into larger calibres and higher budget (read 338, 375, 408 class cartridges ) you will find a compromise with 7/30 cal
You also need to factor in a suitable scope mount with adjustable incline or high fixed incline and a suitably large adjustment scope with repeat accurate tracking
Load development
Shooting abolity
Wind reading ability
Stable rest
Accurate base rifle
All other factors to take into account to a facet of shooting that can be a real money pit and high grain factor at the same time
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scrumbag
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Yep. And a looooooooonnnnnnngggggg barrel...
BC of 7mm bullets gets quite high and usually a bit less punishing to shoot.
Might be worth thinking about the 7mm Practical (7mm-300WM) as that has a magnum bolt face which is commonly used and more powder than the 7mm rem mag. (Some of the SAUMS and things use a 404 Jeff as a base and that's a really fat case)
Scrummy
scrumbag
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The man speaks a lot of sense!Both seven and thirty will get you to a mile
You run out of usualble weight class with 7mm at 180/190 grain which can be marginal to stabilise and 230 g with 30 cal
I’ve built numerous F class rifles in both which whilst the max competition range is 1200 yd if you don’t tell the bullets, both will happily travel to beyond a mile And remain supersonic, stable and accurate
My presence for a longer range rifle cartridge would be a 7/ 300wsm or straight 300 wsm
Without going into larger calibres and higher budget (read 338, 375, 408 class cartridges ) you will find a compromise with 7/30 cal
You also need to factor in a suitable scope mount with adjustable incline or high fixed incline and a suitably large adjustment scope with repeat accurate tracking
Load development
Shooting abolity
Wind reading ability
Stable rest
Accurate base rifle
All other factors to take into account to a facet of shooting that can be a real money pit and high grain factor at the same time
Though something like
180gr ELD-M, 185gr Nosler RDF and 190gr A-tips are quite slippery
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