Smellydog
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On a windy day I know which rimfire round I would prefere to be out with.
Hmr, it's still more even on a windy day over 22lr.
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Hmr, it's still more even on a windy day over 22lr.
How can you malign the 303 Brit?It's a puppy to shoot.
When you've carried one for a good few miles, had to take a few quick shots, and it's clouted you due to firing positions, you won't call it a puppy. That steel butt plate is a little unforgiving.
Brave Echo Niner
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So true - heavier rifles mitigate recoil and are generally easier to shoot. Despite this people seem to be far more eager to shave weight off their rifle rather than their waist line!
Personally I find my hill rifle about right at 18.5lbs, it’ll be slightly heavier when I’ve had it rebarreled, but it gives a nice balance of being easy to carry and a pussycat to shoot despite being a .300 WSM.
There is obviously a ceiling as to what is practical, I certainly wouldn’t want to carry my 28lb match rifle up a hill after hinds, though I may do it at some point to say I can!
Ben
welshwarrior
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17 HMR never heard of so many rifle blowing the magazine out the bottom or other issues.
Steff
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18.5 lbs. on a hill rifle? You must be an animal to carry this kind of weight around - and a pussy when it comes to recoilSo true - heavier rifles mitigate recoil and are generally easier to shoot. People seem to be far more eager to shave weight off their rifle however, rather than their waist line!
Personally I find my hill rifle about right at 18.5lbs, it’ll be slightly heavier when I’ve had it rebarreled, but it gives a nice balance of being easy to carry and a pussycat to shoot despite being a .300 WSM.
There is obviously a ceiling as to what is practical, I certainly wouldn’t want to carry my 28lb match rifle up a hill after hinds, though I may do it at some point to say I can!
Ben
.Weight certainly helps, but design is just as important. I shot a friend‘s new Savage Ultralight in .308 the other day. Recoil was there but not annoying. And what a sweet trigger it had, I might add.
Rusty Gate
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17HMR & the varying issues
What a bunch of wusses I shot a BSA 30-06 that weighed under 7lb scoped with a 6x42 Swarovski on top no mod and never noticed the recoil. I was used to shooting 3"mag loads out of a lightweight side by side shotgun. That kicked a lot.
I also have a 325 WSM that weighs 8lb scoped.
I will let you know.
I will let you know.
Steff
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if you still can!I know what you mean. But recoil and barrel jump are very individually perceived. Someone who ever only shot a moderated .243 as his deer rifle will shy away from an unmoderated .30-06. He will not feel that he has control over the rifle, which is probably true, and even start to flinch.
If this is what you grew up with, you have a different approach.
enfieldspares
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Nicest calibre I've ever owned but now no longer have was a Belgian made 'scoped FM Mauser 98 in 8x60S which I intended to use with Speer 200 grain bullets.
Brave Echo Niner
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I can take more recoil, I just like my A3-5, PM2 and a decent calibre, it just happens it come to a higher weight when put together!18.5 lbs. on a hill rifle? You must be an animal to carry this kind of weight around - and a pussy when it comes to recoil
That said I do see strike on most of my shots with it, even at 50 metres or less, which people say they don’t with even a .308, so has its advantages!
Steff
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Meanest thing I ever shot was a Mauser 66 barreled in 9.3x64 (no, not 62) Brennecke. The stock design was such that the butt sloped away from your face, leaving your head free-floating in the air if you wanted to have even the slightest glimpse through the scope. In addition the stock was too short, way too short, which meant you had to retract your head if you wanted to protect your skull from the non-rubberized ocular hovering in front of your eye like the sword of Damocles. And then it fired …. 
Ugh , am a reading that correctly? Hmr and 22 lr are pretty much as makes no difference the same windage at 100 yards
Not quite though
Andy seatrout
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My Sako finnlight in 6.5 x 55 weighs 9lb 8oz scope and mod on but no bolt, no magazine and no bullets- (I’ve just brought it out of the cabinet to see) so maybe 10lb all in.So true - heavier rifles mitigate recoil and are generally easier to shoot. Despite this people seem to be far more eager to shave weight off their rifle rather than their waist line!
Personally I find my hill rifle about right at 18.5lbs, it’ll be slightly heavier when I’ve had it rebarreled, but it gives a nice balance of being easy to carry and a pussycat to shoot despite being a .300 WSM.
There is obviously a ceiling as to what is practical, I certainly wouldn’t want to carry my 28lb match rifle up a hill after hinds, though I may do it at some point to say I can!
Ben
I’ve extended the stock to meet my gargantuan frame and have lots of eye relief….. but I find it sweet to shoot because I’m heavy enough and the stock fits ……
I’ve not fired that many rifles but an old .303 gave me a nasty kick when I was in the CCF in about 1983, probably due to a horribly short stock, does that count?
Brave Echo Niner
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I had my .308 with a PSE stock that was a similar weight to that, very doable to shoot with nice recoil pattern, much easier to shoot minute groups when I put a heavier stock on it though!
Very doable to shoot lighter rifles accurately, but there’s a reason match shooters choose heavy rifles!
Andy seatrout
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I’d have to agree, but as a newbie to stalking and with most of it likely to be woodland fallow, I’m happy to maximise the ‘stalking’ aspect rather than the look at longer ranges.
Ive only shot two deer so far; one at 120 yards, one at forty yards…. I can group like this at 84 yards off sticks… which should be good enough…. (84 yards btw is the longest view I can get before the track I’ve my ‘range’ located doglegs all to buggery…. )
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I had a very similar experience with a steyr-mannlicher L in .308. Bavarian style hogs back stock that was too short for me.Meanest thing I ever shot was a Mauser 66 barreled in 9.3x64 (no, not 62) Brennecke. The stock design was such that the butt sloped away from your face, leaving your head free-floating in the air if you wanted to have even the slightest glimpse through the scope. In addition the stock was too short, way too short, which meant you had to retract your head if you wanted to protect your skull from the non-rubberized ocular hovering in front of your eye like the sword of Damocles. And then it fired ….
Beat seven shades of sh*t out of me every time I pulled the trigger. 10 shots on a range session left you with a bruised cheek, bleeding eyebrow and tender shoulder for days.
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