Mounting a gun cabinet on its back under a storage bedframe? Anyone done this?

[andyk]

Have a read of the HO guide on firearms security. It should answer most of your questions and you’ll then be able to justify your decisions to your FEO based on that (should they be difficult).

Asking isn’t a bad idea but be aware that they may “gold plate” the requirements and then you’re in a difficult position having already asked them what to do if it’s unnecessarily difficult and contrary to HO requirements.

From recollection, floor mounted is ok but the bolts have to go into the joists and not just floorboards. As others have mentioned, they don’t like locations that are so difficult to access that you may be tempted not to use the safe.

 

[Len the dog]

If you could point me towards a product/how to that would be very helpful thanks.

Screwfix do a range of chemical fixings.
Basically you drill a hole through the plasterboard and into the blockwork of a solid wall, making sure not to drill through to your neighbour's side then insert either screwed rod or fixing bolts to get the length right and to check on positioning. When you're happy with that, remove the rod/bolts and squirt in the chemical fixing, they are a two part resin with a special mixing tube that you insert into the hole, then reinsert the rods/bolts and centralise in the holes in the back of the cabinet and leave them for the prescribed period to set. Then it's simply a matter of tightening the nuts unside the cabinet.

If you spend a bit of time measuring and trial fitting then you shouldn't have to trim off any excess thread from inside your cabinet. You can buy plastic hex nut caps that cover the ends of the rods to protect your guns.

Maybe worth using a cable finder prior to drilling the wall.

 

[VonBlitz]

Screwfix do a range of chemical fixings.
Basically you drill a hole through the plasterboard and into the blockwork of a solid wall, making sure not to drill through to your neighbour's side then insert either screwed rod or fixing bolts to get the length right and to check on positioning. When you're happy with that, remove the rod/bolts and squirt in the chemical fixing, they are a two part resin with a special mixing tube that you insert into the hole, then reinsert the rods/bolts and centralise in the holes in the back of the cabinet and leave them for the prescribed period to set. Then it's simply a matter of tightening the nuts unside the cabinet.

If you spend a bit of time measuring and trial fitting then you shouldn't have to trim off any excess thread from inside your cabinet. You can buy plastic hex nut caps that cover the ends of the rods to protect your guns.

Maybe worth using a cable finder prior to drilling the wall.

Amazing. I had never considered that as an option. I will check it out thanks.

 

[75]

I've used this loads of times for gun cabinets:

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You then just need some threaded bar and nut / washer of right size (or you can buy packs of studs but that's a few quid more: Rawlplug Studs BZP M10 x 130mm 10 Pack )

 

[John Doe]

The Police don’t like anything too complicated to get to because they know you won’t use it at some point. Your going stalking one evening and the next morning, will you really climb up into the loft to put your rifle away only to get it down again a few hours later?

 

[devon deer stalker]

I've used this loads of times for gun cabinets:

Error 410 | Screwfix

Thousands of products at low trade prices | FREE next day delivery available | 30 day money back guarantee on all orders.

www.screwfix.com

You then just need some threaded bar and nut / washer of right size (or you can buy packs of studs but that's a few quid more: Rawlplug Studs BZP M10 x 130mm 10 Pack )

Thats what I used, brilliant stuff

 

[Kjf]

Reading above and dispelling a few myths.
Cabinets in lofts are not an uncommon occurence.
Also in the certain circumstances, floor mounted in caravans has not been unheard of.
Deffo contact your feo and discuss for help though.

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Also 12mm coach bolts for timber , fixed straight into floor joists ,

It would be easier to cut the locks out of the cabinet with a cordless grinder and slit discs ,than to jemmy it off floor joists, fixed with the correct anchors/ fixings

Don't over think it Just ask your FEO

Kjf

 

[cjm1066]

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I brough a set and didn't use it - ling story £100 inc p&p.

 

[Rutland lad]

If you could point me towards a product/how to that would be very helpful thanks.

Wickes or any building materials supplier do this stuff. It’s in a canister like bathroom sealant but needs a bigger gun to inject it.

 

[75]

Wickes or any building materials supplier do this stuff. It’s in a canister like bathroom sealant but needs a bigger gun to inject it.

the smaller sized screw fix on brand stuff is in normal diameter tubes so fits std guns.

 

[lordmarston]

A resin fixing will do the job just take your time and do it properly you can buy resin fixing kits try screwfix

 

[sy247]

All my cabinets are secured using chemical fixings. Goes off like concrete. No problem from Norfolk police.

 

[cjm1066]

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I brough a set and didn't use it - ling story £100 inc p&p.

The spelling mistake show this was posted in a hurry!

The £100 was meant to be £10 inc p&p UK

 

[Nkawu]

Tried that but for some reason my cabinet locking mechanism didn’t agree with being laid flat. Would lock but not unlock unless lifted up again.

 

[Len the dog]

Tried that but for some reason my cabinet locking mechanism didn’t agree with being laid flat. Would lock but not unlock unless lifted up again.

That could have ended badly if you'd already bolted it down.

 

[ferretmanabu]

If you have plasterboard with thermolite type block behind it then the simplest way is to get some 10mm threaded bar and cut it to size. Use RawlPlug R Chem II (or equivalent of another brand) to fix the threaded bar in place and fox with appropriate size nut. This is what I recently did and was cleared by FEO.