Muntjac Deer Distribution

Dont remember one . To be fair Being based in Northern England and only doing a few trips South each year for CWD . Wild guess its the food / habitat available? I generally go to the area that surrounds Woben and they seem to have a passion for a specific rushy plant that deposits fluff all over as cover / feeding ? Other than that they stand well out in the open in the middle of large fields challenging shooting at times.
One thing that puzzles me is there are far fewer Muntjac when CWD abound on the ground , though again i am only a visitor , Ask me about Sika and i can say a lot more about them as i even get them in the garden
Muntys and CWD don’t overly compete with each other. Muntys are like rabbits, they love woodland and cover and get nervous when out in the open, CWD like Hares give them a 200 acre field and they will go feed/stand/sleep right in the middle of it. Average Munty shot normally sub 50 yds, CWD 150+ yds ( Generalisation but often true)
 
Bit geeky but there's actually quite an interesting paper that was published in the April 2008 edition of Mammal Review about Muntjac Distribution. There were in fact various deliberate relocations from Woburn to sites in Norfolk / Suffolk, Warwickshire, Oxfordshire and Northamptonshire as far back as the 1930s. Whether or not the 12th Duke of Bedford used an Ifor Williams appears to be unrecorded... I'd upload a copy of the paper but it's too large a file.

Chinese Water Deer are spreading - more slowly perhaps, but they are spreading. They are regularly seen and shot west of the M40 now, as well as having made it to the Norfolk coast.
 
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I feel like CWD would also probably thrive quite well on the west coast of Scotland, D&G and Ayrshire are quite wet places we've also got a lot of Scottish rainforest I wonder if nutrition wise the browse in that would be better than a random place in the smackdab middle of England?
 
I feel like CWD would also probably thrive quite well on the west coast of Scotland, D&G and Ayrshire are quite wet places we've also got a lot of Scottish rainforest I wonder if nutrition wise the browse in that would be better than a random place in the smackdab middle of England?
I suspect the low nutrient availability in most Scottish woodland would be a problem for them.
 
There was at least one cwd found near one of my permissions in Essex many years ago, featured in the paper with photo of it. This was undoubtedly a lift and shift by someone though they have not lasted
 
Both muntjac and CWD are quite selective browsers, and need a fairly rich herb and shrub layer - which is why they’ll never really establish in areas with low fertility acid soils (like Scotland).

I'd imagine that's partly why the spread into East Sussex isn't as quick and even as expected. Due to the high numbers already of fallow there are lots of places where there is barely any understory in the woods and just open farmland (also full of fallow).

I'm sure they live well elsewhere together but maybe the muntjac were there in good numbers before the fallow🤔
 
I feel like CWD would also probably thrive quite well on the west coast of Scotland, D&G and Ayrshire are quite wet places we've also got a lot of Scottish rainforest I wonder if nutrition wise the browse in that would be better than a random place in the smackdab middle of England?
It would however be a totally crazy idea to ruin what those areas already offer, via illegal introduction .
I have only hunted CWD at venues that are close to Woben and going out for CWD / Muntjac is something different and by no means is it too far to travel for a Scott , Just as guys come from the South of England and Wales to get out after Stags .
CWD would certainly survive there as they are built for far colder weather than the UK ever gets, but at what cost to the environment ? Muntjac i suspect would not do as well because of the huge shift in climate ( other than that bit on the West that catches the Gulf steam ). Quality Roe , Reds , Sika and patches of Fallow here and there are quite good enough imho.
 
Muntys and CWD don’t overly compete with each other. Muntys are like rabbits, they love woodland and cover and get nervous when out in the open, CWD like Hares give them a 200 acre field and they will go feed/stand/sleep right in the middle of it. Average Munty shot normally sub 50 yds, CWD 150+ yds ( Generalisation but often true)
Shot most well within 50 yards but yeah they do feel safe in the middle on a field even when your stood bold upright . They seem to favour certain plants especailly those things that shed the cotton type stuff
 
This "FAWN" was released back to the wild. 2014
Think the Stapely water gardens comment was after the correct ID.:doh:
Odd animals turn up all over , a good few will have hitched a ride I know of a definite Muntjac in Chorley Lancashire a good 20 years or so ago ( Leeds-Liverpool canal side) . Did it walk or end up in an container waggon back ?
 
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