My drilling is dead. Long live my NEW DRILLING!

Pine Marten

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Hello everyone.

Some of you may recall that following a bureaucratic accident, my previous Sauer drilling suffered a sad end earlier this year. But I pulled myself together, chalked it up to expensive experience (never have anything to do with the Proof House if you can possibly avoid it), and set off in search of a replacement. Back in late July, I spotted a likely contender on eGun.de: a seemingly unused 16/16/7x65R Simson Luxus. It was time to brush the cobwebs off my German and to learn some gunmaking terminology (which has been an adventure in itself and a worthwhile exercise). First of all, this gun came equipped with an Einstecklauf (insert barrel) which I didn't want, and was crowned by a huge old 8x56 Zeiss which I wanted replaced with the Kahles Helia 1.6-8x42 that I'd initially bought for the previous, deceased Sauer. Sure enough, the lady at the gunsmiths in Saarwellingen said that we could do a deal on that basis, and that the Buechsenmachermeister (master gunsmith) could mount my scope if I posted it over, no problem. Deal done.

Obviously, it wasn't that straightforward, and I'm sparing you the paper trail story because it's dull. The BueMa (new acronym I've picked up) had a devil of a time obtaining the right rings, and as I understand it had to partly machine the front one in the end. But after four months, I finally went to pick it up in William Evans yesterday evening, and I couldn't be happier with my purchase. The lady wasn't joking when she said it was Neuwertig (as new)! I don't think it's ever been used. The wood is beautiful and pristine, the blacking deep and unblemished, the bores sparkling, all the parts still have that tightness of a new gone. Indeed, it took some WD40 and a couple of very light taps with a covered small hammer to unlock the rear mount of the scope. Enough talking, here are some pictures. There remains just one question: can I shoot with it? That's the next episode.
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That's exquisite!!! What a beautiful gun. I'm not a drilling man either, but I appreciate a quality rifle when I see one. And that exudes quality! Beautiful
 
just read through your previous experience with the proof house....And they are still using ''tamper proof '' hairy string on their tally!

Just an after thought and to possibly cut out the need for a gun to be sent off to the proof house.. Would it be beneficial when importing older firearms from EU ( are we still in ? ) countries, to get them re-proofed in the country of origin then Birmingham can't argue that it passes muster ?
 
Thank you for updating us Pine Marten on the saga of your drilling! I did wonder if you'd resolve the matter and I'm pleased for you that, finally, you've had a happy ending.
 
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+1 for Woodsmoke. I alway marvel at examples of master craftsmanship and that is truly a thing of beauty! Never shot with one and ‘probably’ don’t need one.... but definately want one! Thanks for sharing Pinemartin
 
Thanks everyone!

So this isn't a new drilling exactly. The date stamp is either 7784 or 7794, I need to check more closely, which I believe means it was proofed either on 7th July 1984, or 1994. 1984 would make more sense given the model, and the fact that by 1994, the Simson brand had gone, together with the GDR (Simson actually being the same company as Merkel, and guns of that brand made in the old Sauer factory in Suhl, by the same people probably). But I suppose it could have undergone proof in 1994, as part of stock clearance or something. Either way, it doesn't matter: clearly no-one ever used it afterwards and it's just sat in a cabinet ever since. Interestingly it has manual cocking of the rifle barrel which is very posh for 1984, less so for '94, but it does bring it up to modern safety expectations.

The scope means it's great for close-up game, moving or not, or stalking at last light, and the calibre combination makes it the nearest thing you're ever going to find to an "Everything Gun", and it packs away into a leg of mutton case for travel. Now I just really need to find some adventures!
 
Let me know by pm to me if you get any ammo supply problems.
Nice gun.
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Thank you. I'm OK for now, I have a couple of boxes of RWS I picked up in Normandy last time I was there, and after that I'll reload. But forty rounds is probably a decade of stalking for me....
 
Damaged beyond any sensible affordable repair by the Birmingham Proof House after they insisted it must undergo reproof as there were no shotgun barrel diameter stamps on it. What with them not having been required in 1960. I'm seeing that most German shotguns or combination guns with shotgun barrels coming up for sale at Holt's these days state "reproofed in 2018" so they've clearly been on a mission regarding this topic.
 
Remind me, Pine Marten, do you have all of the old drilling back now? Or is it still at Alan Rhone, the Proof House or long scrapped? Those two little pins either side of the top lever. They disappear, don't they, when that barrel is fired? Oh...one other thing....you know I've a quantity of 16 bore cartridges listed in classifieds?
 
Nice story with a happy ending ( and starting of the next chapter).
Beautiful gun, and very functional.
I have to put on my lobster bib before looking at the photos again.
 
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Remind me, Pine Marten, do you have all of the old drilling back now? Or is it still at Alan Rhone, the Proof House or long scrapped? Those two little pins either side of the top lever. They disappear, don't they, when that barrel is fired? Oh...one other thing....you know I've a quantity of 16 bore cartridges listed in classifieds?
It's at Alan Rhone's minus the scope and mounts which I managed to sell, and still advertised in the classifieds if you're interested. But it's off my ticket and my assumption is that it will be scrapped. Yes, those are cocking indicators on too, you're quite right.

I'll have a look at your advert, thanks, but I'm reasonably well stocked on ammunition, given how little I use.
 
Well, you know what, and I'm not taking the Michael, you could have it de-activated and then with a suitable round walnut base convert it to a stand lamp? Or there are folk who will re-line the thing as a 20 Bore...but I might be wrong? I think that the man Haddoake might offer this? It might be worth a BUMP on your classifieds?
 
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