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New government deer management strategy
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Have you read the Pests Act 1954?
There is no UK act that allows or encourages wild rabbits to breed; in fact, the opposite is true. Under the Pests Act 1954, most of England and Wales is a designated "rabbit clearance area," making it a legal obligation for landowners to control or destroy rabbits to prevent damage to crops, forestry, and pastures.
I'm well aware of that but what's that got to do with deer? The Deer Act means they are not classes as vermin
As a recent retired rural land agentconsultant I think im pretty clued up on legislation relating to all things land management. If you have a particular piece of legislation that make a landowner liable for deer damage on neighbouring property please sign post me to it, i'm always willing to learn.
Ah, that explains why you together with most Agents I have met in a long life will go on and on about legislation.My first epistle was mereley the possibility of something, the last was word for word in a legal framework I read. A great pity that some landowners (and possibly their agents) have little consideration for others though.
Well where can I find this legal framework???
Read what you wrote, "wild animal" last time I looked a rabbit was a wild animal
I seriously doubt anyone could be held to account for the management of a wild animal that just happens to be on your land.
shakey jake
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Rabbits are a land owners problem, if they cross a boundary and do damage.
Illegal to have rats on your land, council have the ability to force control.
Deer should be treated the same way as rabbits i think
Here we go again. When I have some more time, perhaps after the doe season I may engage in further discussion. It took me a while to seive through govt and NE diatribes but I will eventually enlighten you. Now go and cull some Sika there are far too many Up Tweed.
palmer_mike
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- While Scotland has a statutory framework and associated non-statutory arrangements to encourage landowners to take a socially responsible approach to deer management, landowners do not have a legal duty to manage or control deer on their land; the only duty is to conform to statutory regulations governing deer management. This poses a significant challenge to secure effective and sustainable deer management.
Deer management: Your questions answered
The John Muir Trust is focused on being a carbon credible wild places charity centred on exemplary land management for people, biodiversity and the climate. Deer management is part of this, and we aim to answer the most frequently asked questions on the issue here.
www.johnmuirtrust.org
This is why we have far too many deer as agents/managers spend most of their time looking at spread sheets instead of looking down a scope
David Barker
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Totally correct and i do hope England Learn from the massive mistakes of scotland. 100,S and 100,S of millions of Tax payers money spent just on managing deer in a 20 year period. Change of legislation many times, Lamping , thermal , No seasons for Males at all. Still we have an increasing deer population. 1 million deer is the cry yet they have never included the REC deer managers in there plans. Its a big Fail up here for the many and an increase in revenue for the few3.c) L
- While Scotland has a statutory framework and associated non-statutory arrangements to encourage landowners to take a socially responsible approach to deer management, landowners do not have a legal duty to manage or control deer on their land; the only duty is to conform to statutory regulations governing deer management. This poses a significant challenge to secure effective and sustainable deer management.
Deer management: Your questions answered
The John Muir Trust is focused on being a carbon credible wild places charity centred on exemplary land management for people, biodiversity and the climate. Deer management is part of this, and we aim to answer the most frequently asked questions on the issue here.
palmer_mike
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sadly this often seems the be the way of things
Nickb
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How would you fix it ?
Waiting patiently at the edge of a clearing as I type this.........
Someone with a foot in both the agents and stalkers camps may just have a better understanding than those with one sided and preconceived viewsThis is why we have far too many deer as agents/managers spend most of their time looking at spread sheets instead of looking down a scope
If you care to actually read the thread you will seee that i was replying to a post regarding deer.Read what you wrote, "wild animal" last time I looked a rabbit was a wild animal
I seriously doubt anyone could be held to account for the management of a wild animal that just happens to be on your land.
Context is everything
Surely similar applies to the water in the case referred to? The water flowing or standing over my land, or even water under my land is not necessarily deemed to belong to me. I'm certainly not entitled to hold onto it and prevent it from draining. I even need a licence to take water out of my borehole.
I've had a case where a tenant's cattle got out onto the road by breaking through one of my walls. There was a potential line of reasoning that I would have had some liability for this to both the tenant and a motorist.
I don't think you need to own something to have a liability for damaged caused by it. You could be liable for not taking due care to mitigate the risk of damage. I don't find your line of argument very plausible.
Yes and they are both wild also many owners have both rabbits and deer grazing the same crops/vegetation....
Go shoot some deer and rabbits lol
That's a 'Bridge to far' ... or was that a 1977 film with Dirk Bogarde as General Browning ?
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