New slots on FAC

That’s brilliant - I think you’ve given me the basic ‘reasoning’ script right there! I won’t be going anywhere near 12 guns, though I’ve a couple of shot guns. I’ve got an 8 gun Brattonsound cabinet, which more realistically will take 5 guns, and makes for a limit of my practical ambitions.

Thanks to everyone for the helpful advice given - it’s been just what I was looking for.

Think carefully about the type of rifles you want rather than the calibre / cartridge per se.

I think an armoury should look something along the lines of

A nice light 22 lr - practice, walkabout shooting rabbits etc.

A varmint / target type rifle. The sort of rifle that can reach out and touch small targets. Needs to be fast, flat shooting, small bullet and able to fire good long shot strings. Double duty as a rifle shooting for on ranges. Cost of ammunition is key. 223 with a faster twist so you can shoot longer ballistically better bullets is probably the way to go. Plenty of good arguments for 22-250, 243, 6.5, 25-06.

A light do it all rifle. This should be an accurate, low recoil easy to shoot easy to carry rifle. It should be in a deer legal cartridge - certainly for the smaller deer. It will probably have a lightish weight barrel shooting a 50 to 100 ish grain bullet, needs to be accurate though for first round hits out to 250, but doesn’t need to be shoot long shot strings. In Scotland a 222 or 223 would fill this for Roe, down south ideal for Muntjac and CWD. 243 has for years filled this role, and now the min bullet weight has been reduced to 80gn it still does for all deer. One of the 6.5mm can also do this admirably.

The stalking rifle. This should a rifle capable of shooting any deer, boar, antelope sized game. It’s the hunting rifle that can go anywhere. Probably has a medium / sporter weight barrel, but shootable from any position from a quick standing shot out a carefully aimed longer range shot in mountains. It’s cartridge will shoot a 130 to 180 ish, perhaps 200 grain bullet, at 2,700 to 3,000 fps. 6.5 at the lower end, 30-06 or the PRCs, belted magnums at the top end.

The above is a core quiver of rifles. You can then add others as needs require, but they will tend to be more specialist. Choice of optics dictates hugely what the end use actually is.

Cartridge and bullet type does need good consideration. Also very much depends on your shooting style, technique etc. If you are old school, like to keep things simple and use maximum point blank range, then velocity really helps.

If you like lots of gear and range finders, apps, etc then long high BC bullets zeroed at 100 and dialled for drops is the way to go.

Optics should match the rifle. I see little point in putting a massive scope on a lightweight rifle. But if you putting together a long range rig on an Accuracy International base then additional weight and bulk of a PM2 makes sense.
 
Just as I said.

The sentence following the one that's been highlighted in bold (presumably by you?) reads:
"it is not enough to base an assessment on the number of firearms alone - other factors in paragraph 2.23 are equally if not more important".

So basically, if you live in a high crime area, maybe shared accommodation, etc etc, then these factors will be taken into account when considering whether a "larger" number of firearms triggers the need for increased security.
I can assure you that simply having more than 12 firearms does not necessarily trigger the need for increased security.
Au contraire as I was trying to say, because a number has been specified, regardless of my protestations about my security arrangements, low crime rate, constantly occupied premises, etc, that specified figure becomes my force's absolute threshold. I am not going to robustly challenge despite being on strong ground because I wish to maintain a positive relationship with my FLD.
 
Au contraire as I was trying to say, because a number has been specified, regardless of my protestations about my security arrangements, low crime rate, constantly occupied premises, etc, that specified figure becomes my force's absolute threshold. I am not going to robustly challenge despite being on strong ground because I wish to maintain a positive relationship with my FLD.
So, your force has chosen to interpret and impliment it in that way.
That doesn't make it the only way, or the correct way.
Personally, I'd be challenging them.
 
That’s brilliant - I think you’ve given me the basic ‘reasoning’ script right there! I won’t be going anywhere near 12 guns, though I’ve a couple of shot guns. I’ve got an 8 gun Brattonsound cabinet, which more realistically will take 5 guns, and makes for a limit of my practical ambitions.

Thanks to everyone for the helpful advice given - it’s been just what I was looking for.
You are welcome. Its pretty much what I have done, but I started with a light 243 Heym SR20 and Brno 22. Then I added a 7x65R combination gun for bigger deer. Then a 7x57 as I needed a bolt action rifle for bigger deer on the open hill.

Then added a heavy barreled 223 for target and vermin
 
So, your force has chosen to interpret and impliment it in that way.
That doesn't make it the only way, or the correct way.
Personally, I'd be challenging them.
@VSS - Whilst I entirely agree (which is what I've been trying to say throughout), let us beg to differ in our approaches given each of our circumstances will be quite different.
 
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If you don't use a vacant slot within 6 months Hants FLD may revoke it as no longer has good reason .
That seems a bit harsh, plenty of legitimate reasons for not buying within six months. Are they strict on that? I've heard of people losing and also some who kept a slot after five years, six months seems a bit severe
 
If you don't use a vacant slot within 6 months Hants FLD may revoke it as no longer has good reason .
Then Hants FAC holders should read 10.34 of the HO Guidance, quote this to the FLD and ask why they think it necessary to go against HO published best practice. If the FAC holder has a good reason then there isn't a time limit except the expiry of the FAC.

Otherwise this policy is encouraging FAC holders to buy some crap to fill the slot before it is lost, sell/scrap and vary it for free later. More work for everyone involved with no benefit.
 
The more "good reason " that you have the better! In fact what about zeroing and practicing, surely that would be on a paper target wouldn't it?
Zeroing is an activity ancilliary to something else, otherwise it would be target shooting - and for the latter to constitute good reason its generally accepted that one has to be an active member of a club.
If you don't use a vacant slot within 6 months Hants FLD may revoke it as no longer has good reason .
Hants may have with some people, but the don't take this approach generally in my experience. I had a particular slot on my certificate for about 7 years and found it very hard to fill because of availability of what I was looking for. I know others who have been unable to find what they want at a price they can afford on several occasions. Obviously if you say you're struggling to find a .243 for under £1000, then they are not going to believe you, but an exotic dangerous game rifle by a premium maker? Perfectly reasonable to have to wait for the right one to come along (or indeed, be built!).
 
I doubt that you will be at that stage for some time but when you have a few (see HO guidance), the security requirements naturally ramp up. I recently have had to shed “slots” to add further items to stay below the highest tier which adds significant cost to security. FWIW
That also depends where you stay. I know a few folk with 20 odd S1 firearms and Level 1 security.
 
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