Non lead rounds

[troggy]

I am not sure about non lead loads, especially in. 243, I have used Norma. 270 120g ballistic tip copper twice to cull fallow does ( obviously obtained the rifle and rounds for scotlanshire reds , but have not as yet used ) I was not impressed, both animals run a long way before keeling over after an engine room placement, small exit wounds, less meat damage than the regular. 243 sako 90g lead rounds, but I like to use the deer keel over ASAP. So I won't be using these rounds again. They are however, very accurate, so I will be using for an expensive practice on the range round.
However, a game keeper friend of mine is convinced that the non tox copper rounds made by Wapiti are as good as expanding lead. Has any one experienced these rounds, see link to website below.

https://www.facebook.com/Wapitiuk/

Wapiti Ammunition and Sporting

wapiti.co.uk

 

[User00040]

I am not sure about non lead loads, especially in. 243, I have used Norma. 270 120g ballistic tip copper twice to cull fallow does ( obviously obtained the rifle and rounds for scotlanshire reds , but have not as yet used ) I was not impressed, both animals run a long way before keeling over after an engine room placement, small exit wounds, less meat damage than the regular. 243 sako 90g lead rounds, but I like to use the deer keel over ASAP. So I won't be using these rounds again. They are however, very accurate, so I will be using for an expensive practice on the range round.
However, a game keeper friend of mine is convinced that the non tox copper rounds made by Wapiti are as good as expanding lead. Has any one experienced these rounds, see link to website below.

https://www.facebook.com/Wapitiuk/

Wapiti Ammunition and Sporting

wapiti.co.uk

Seems like every Fred with a Shed is making copper bullets now!

If you really need to use non-lead due to the landowner's virtue signalling, I'd say load your own.

Hornady CX have worked very well for me so far, very good expansion across velocity range and about 15-20% cheaper than the competition.

Also available in quantity at any decent RFD with an Edgar Brothers account, in SAAMI/CIP proofed factory loads too!

 

[timbrayford]

Load my own Barnes 95g ttsx in .270 for use on fallow, brilliant stopping power and wound channel without the massive bruising from lead

 

[troggy]

Load my own Barnes 95g ttsx in .270 for use on fallow, brilliant stopping power and wound channel without the massive bruising from lead

I may well ask somebody I know who reloads to produce some rounds if we are forced to go down the non toxic route, however, I won't be reloading myself. I will buy some of the Wapiti.co.uk rounds in. 243 from William Evans and assess the outcome on both the range and on cull bucks this coming season, meanwhile the Norma. 270 copper are not going to be used for quarry.

 

[Bowland blades]

I have been very impressed by barnes ttsx in the 260 rem 100 grain are my favourite having killed all uk deer with them except fallow ( mostly used on reds the last couple of year ) 120 ttsx also good but certainly no advantage over the 100 grain a single stag ( the last of 3 had a wander about ) looking at damaged sustained there was no functioning hart though simply seeing his two mates fall pumped him up . Dont know numbers but its well into three figures now
IMHO better than any lead bullet i have used in the last 20 plus years . too much really for roe, CWD and Muntjac TBF so i have just bought a 223 rem

 

[Norfolk Deer Search]

I am not sure about non lead loads, especially in. 243, I have used Norma. 270 120g ballistic tip copper twice to cull fallow does ( obviously obtained the rifle and rounds for scotlanshire reds , but have not as yet used ) I was not impressed, both animals run a long way before keeling over after an engine room placement, small exit wounds, less meat damage than the regular. 243 sako 90g lead rounds, but I like to use the deer keel over ASAP. So I won't be using these rounds again. They are however, very accurate, so I will be using for an expensive practice on the range round.
However, a game keeper friend of mine is convinced that the non tox copper rounds made by Wapiti are as good as expanding lead. Has any one experienced these rounds, see link to website below.

https://www.facebook.com/Wapitiuk/

Wapiti Ammunition and Sporting

wapiti.co.uk

Shoot another 98 then you will know of the bullet is any good!

2 animals is no judgment of a bullet.

 

[paul o']

No mty all I can say is my home rolled Fox 130 .270 they fall over only one has done the leap but only managed 10 -15 yrds

 

[Mike L]

@Norfolk Deer Search ………..
5,4,3,2,1

 

[Norfolk Deer Search]

@Norfolk Deer Search ………..
5,4,3,2,1

 

[TH4]

Load my own Barnes 95g ttsx in .270 for use on fallow, brilliant stopping power and wound channel without the massive bruising from lead

Just out of interest, how many have you shot with these loads? Would be interested to know if it is a fair amount as don't know anyone else using them.

 

[timbrayford]

I may well ask somebody I know who reloads to produce some rounds if we are forced to go down the non toxic route, however, I won't be reloading myself. I will buy some of the Wapiti.co.uk rounds in. 243 from William Evans and assess the outcome on both the range and on cull bucks this coming season, meanwhile the Norma. 270 copper are not going to be used for quarry.

I have tried the ttsx in .243, they worked ok on roe but lacked knock down power on fallow

 

[Tikka 270]

Use sako 110g ttsx - very accurate and kill the deer quickly but hardly a shot reaction and blood trails are near non existent, shot 10 red this week and not one blood trail to be seen, most of the time it's not an issue with a dog and a thermal but a pain in the arse other times.

 

[User00038]

I am not sure about non lead loads, especially in. 243, I have used Norma. 270 120g ballistic tip copper twice to cull fallow does ( obviously obtained the rifle and rounds for scotlanshire reds , but have not as yet used ) I was not impressed, both animals run a long way before keeling over after an engine room placement, small exit wounds, less meat damage than the regular. 243 sako 90g lead rounds, but I like to use the deer keel over ASAP. So I won't be using these rounds again. They are however, very accurate, so I will be using for an expensive practice on the range round.
However, a game keeper friend of mine is convinced that the non tox copper rounds made by Wapiti are as good as expanding lead. Has any one experienced these rounds, see link to website below.

https://www.facebook.com/Wapitiuk/

Wapiti Ammunition and Sporting

wapiti.co.uk

Non Lead Range Event

The opportunity to try out some different non-lead ammo sounds ideal?

£20 all in seems pretty good?

 

[Utectok]

Yew tree tlr bullets get my vote

 

[25 Sharps]

I may well ask somebody I know who reloads to produce some rounds if we are forced to go down the non toxic route, however, I won't be reloading myself. I will buy some of the Wapiti.co.uk rounds in. 243 from William Evans and assess the outcome on both the range and on cull bucks this coming season, meanwhile the Norma. 270 copper are not going to be used for quarry.

Why restrict it to cull bucks?

 

[big ears]

I have tried the ttsx in .243, they worked ok on roe but lacked knock down power on fallow

Yet @devon deer stalker on here shoots Barnes 85gr TTSX out if a 243 and knocks down fallow and red easily with it.
Horses for courses

 

[devon deer stalker]

I have tried the ttsx in .243, they worked ok on roe but lacked knock down power on fallow

I use the 80g TTSX in mine, home load, around 3200' fps, the only issue I have had, on 2 occasions, I thought a stag was taking too long to expire so gave them another, but I do shoot a lot of deer, and I haven't had any issues in the boiler room (I never head shoot) in fact I haven't noticed a difference between it and bigger calibers I have used.
I really rate them, I did use Fox bullets for a while but quickly went back to the Barnes

 

[25 Sharps]

I use the 80g TTSX in mine, home load, around 3200' fps, the only issue I have had, on 2 occasions, I thought a stag was taking too long to expire so gave them another, but I do shoot a lot of deer, and I haven't had any issues in the boiler room (I never head shoot) in fact I haven't noticed a difference between it and bigger calibers I have used.
I really rate them, I did use Fox bullets for a while but quickly went back to the Barnes

Running the .257 version in the sharps at 3140 fps, only used on a couple of roe and munty so far, taking it out on the fallow next weekend.

 

[Hayduke]

@Norfolk Deer Search ………..
5,4,3,2,1

And we’re off

 

[griff]

Seems like every Fred with a Shed is making copper bullets.

Your obviously not an engineer, the requirements needed to produce such an item are beyond both our
pay scales.