Otter spread

[A Guy Out West]

Here in Lancashire. Lost all my koi fish into double figures 10 in total one night's work section of head all that was eaten
Glad too see them back but thier rise does create a lot of problems for many other things in the wild if we have another species beyond reasonable control and too high a population ( like badgers the highest density in Europe now and tge only nation without control )

That sounds like the work of a mink. Another animal I enjoy trapping.

 

[Bo Diddley]

That sounds like the work of a mink. Another animal I enjoy trapping.

Sounds like classic otter to me, everyone in our area has been cleaned out, loads of CCTV footage of the culprits, they only eat the tasty pieces and leave all the fleshy body an awful lot of the time!

 

[steve sxs]

My cormorants license was for 2, up to 4 now the guy from natural England said just don't be caught with more dead than that onsite at any one time. I used to have to keep the dead ones for inspection so just kept the first 2.

Yeh I wasn't very good at maths Neather but hey ho you can't be good at everything

 

[steve sxs]

And a good thing too! We can live with losing what they need to eat.

Brown trout, eels, white claw crayfish, newts, all low nesting water birds especially Moorhen

 

[shakey jake]

Brown trout, eels, white claw crayfish, newts, all low nesting water birds especially Moorhen

didnt all those things live happily with otters for thousands of years?

 

[steve sxs]

didnt all those things live happily with otters for thousands of years?

I wouldn't say live happily but yes did Co exist before we arrived on the sean and altered the whole system which you cannot reverse unless we all go live somewhere else (any sensible options)

 

[Heym SR20]

Plenty up here in Edinburgh and on the Forth. I have seen them on the Water of Leith 10 minutes walk from the city centre. They are also on the Braid Burn, five minutes walk from @Edinburgh Rifles. They have also been caught on the security cameras on the pontoons at the yachtclub down at Granton.

 

[Bowland blades]

That sounds like the work of a mink. Another animal I enjoy trapping.

Mink ?lol most of those fish where double figures and tge biggest more like 20+ it was carried over considerable obstacles, so no !
We have ditches that lead directly into the upper hodder and are also well within otter distance from the ribble and one of its tributaries . All contain otters
Mink ? Not seen one here for a decade previously, its full of traps for stoats etc and all keeperd ground
No chance was it Mink, all Muslid eat head backwards as they like brain , seen Mink struggle with medium large size chub of 4-5 lb ( ex River keeper )

 

[foxdropper]

Here in Lancashire. Lost all my koi fish into double figures 10 in total one night's work section of head all that was eaten
Glad too see them back but thier rise does create a lot of problems for many other things in the wild if we have another species beyond reasonable control and too high a population ( like badgers the highest density in Europe now and tge only nation without control )

Have you not had the cull round you mate .Here the cull has all but wiped out the stripey one to the point it’s a thing to see one now .

 

[Reloader708]

Im sure I saw a dead otter on the local bypass (Keighley, west yorkshire) a few weeks ago. I was surprised as it was only about 1/2 mile out of town.
It makes me wonder if it may have been an otter that left loads of dead crayfish claws on the river banks during the summer when the river was very low?

There certainly is some strange wildlife in that town!

 

[Bowland blades]

Have you not had the cull round you mate .Here the cull has all but wiped out the stripey one to the point it’s a thing to see one now .

No it was planned because of a badger strain of tb from Ireland showed up in South Cumbria. There are certainly more badgers than foxes in Bowland , forever having them crossing roads od becoming RTA victims

 

[Bowland blades]

There certainly is some strange wildlife in that town!

Be very surprised if there where no otter In the river aire . The otter is now in every county of England. They ain't poor breeders and do spread fast as the young are seen off . Really cannot imagine there are no otter in the aire as its really spitting distance from us they are on the wenning which has a connection to the upper hodder

 

[Reloader708]

Be very surprised if there where no otter In the river aire . The otter is now in every county of England. They ain't poor breeders and do spread fast as the young are seen off . Really cannot imagine there are no otter in the aire as its really spitting distance from us they are on the wenning which has a connection to the upper hodder

Yes they're on the aire, I've picked a couple of dead ones off the bypass below skipton in the past and dropped them at the local college. I belive they used them in dissection classes.
I was actually referring to the natives of keighley Town, I belive it once came fourth in the 100 worst towns in Britain.

 

[Ratel]

Have you not had the cull round you mate .Here the cull has all but wiped out the stripey one to the point it’s a thing to see one now .

That would be nice for my wild grey partridge for a couple of years.

 

[Ratel]

There certainly is some strange wildlife in that town!

Yep a lot go round with their shirt tails hanging out.

 

[A Guy Out West]

Mink ?lol most of those fish where double figures and tge biggest more like 20+ it was carried over considerable obstacles, so no !
We have ditches that lead directly into the upper hodder and are also well within otter distance from the ribble and one of its tributaries . All contain otters
Mink ? Not seen one here for a decade previously, its full of traps for stoats etc and all keeperd ground
No chance was it Mink, all Muslid eat head backwards as they like brain , seen Mink struggle with medium large size chub of 4-5 lb ( ex River keeper )

Oh, I didn’t know the fish were that big. I have seen where otter have caught steelhead and just ripped out the eggs and dined on them. Otters in these parts usually eat a good portion of the fish I find that they have caught, exception being the eggs of spawning salmon/steelhead. I guess they have easy pickings in your ponds. The ease of catching the pond fish must set them into a gluttonous frenzy.

 

[willie_gunn]

Oh, I didn’t know the fish were that big. I have seen where otter have caught steelhead and just ripped out the eggs and dined on them. Otters in these parts usually eat a good portion of the fish I find that they have caught, exception being the eggs of spawning salmon/steelhead. I guess they have easy pickings in your ponds. The ease of catching the pond fish must set them into a gluttonous frenzy.

The otter on the rivers we fished in Scotland were the same - they would catch 8-10 pound hen fish and just eat the eggs. On several occasions we took the remains of the carcasses we found in the morning on the bank back to the lodge and cut off a few decent salmon steaks.

It was also fun to have the fish tail sticking out of your fish bag as you approached the rendezvous point at lunch time!

 

[steve sxs]

Yep a lot go round with their shirt tails hanging out.

Yes back in the 70s it was the Clockwork Orange lot LOL, their prodgeny are still there bless em they're almost human

 

[A Guy Out West]

The otter on the rivers we fished in Scotland were the same - they would catch 8-10 pound hen fish and just eat the eggs. On several occasions we took the remains of the carcasses we found in the morning on the bank back to the lodge and cut off a few decent salmon steaks.

It was also fun to have the fish tail sticking out of your fish bag as you approached the rendezvous point at lunch time!

Instead of road kill, it’s river kill. I think we came up with a new term.

 

[Keith Edmunds]

For the life of me, I really cannot understand why 'managing' any species is seen as a problem. I feel the argument to fence all commercial fisheries is like saying fence all woodland to protect from deer. The otter was a problem to fisheries long before any commercial element as a read of The Compleat Angler (published 1653) will testify but then we managed them, we controlled them. The badger is no different.

it is totally bonkers that the tax-payer will be paying professional badger controllers to shoot badgers at night but.......If the very same individual should go anywhere near a sett with his earthdog, the tax-payer will be paying for the same man to be prosecuted through the courts..................................Stop the World, I want to get off!!!!!!!