Panorama ramifications

The ramifications are not the sacking of the 10 staff featured, as they should be. No one need these sorts of people in the job. The ramifications are the thousands of good, honest officers that will resign because they are being tarred with the same brush…

Policing in the UK is on the brink of collapse. Moral is a distant memory and people cannot be replaced with the calibre required.
 
No, I don’t think it is on the whole. There certainly is an issue with recruiting as firstly, you can’t recruit the calibre you need. The devaluing of the roll, the lack of appropriate pay and conditions does not attract those that it needs to.

And during a conversation a few weeks ago with a retired cop, he said something I never thought of before. In the need to stamp out “canteen culture”, the canteens have been effectively wiped out. Police bars in stations no longer exist and even the slightest inappropriate comment and behaviour faces the full weight of the disciplinary process.

At one time coppers rarely took the work home. They weren’t the domestic abusers that they have present in their ranks now, and they weren’t the rapists and murderers we have seen recently… and that’s because there was a “safe” environment to unload the stresses and strains of the work. It’s not elitest to say that “only a copper can sometimes understand what a copper goes through”.

There would always be the one that slipped through, but on the whole, people could be taken care of, the wrong ‘uns could be sorted. The last 30 years has brought changes not, in some cases, for the better.
 
As a result of the undercover investigation the Met' appears to be cleaning house....

Lets hope they clean it all the way to the highest ranks, It is just starting to emerge how the Grooming rape gangs has been brushed under the carpet and covered up but it goes way higher than your beat bobby
 
Non of what I heard on the program was any different to the views you will hear and I hear in a male orientated working class working environment, or in a beaters trailer for that matter.

The custody Sargent fella was out of line and should have been reprimanded. And that’s about it.

We will get the police service we deserve.
 
The police recruit from society, is this not a reflection of society? Discuss.

Absolutely, the opinions and views they espoused were absolutely no different what you will hear down the pub after a few pints with work mates or fishing club pals or cage bird club pals, white working class views that is what they are
 
BBC Panorama, still banging the woke drums. Snide undercover reporters, I suspect... can't bring myself to watch the programme any longer.

Edit; Woke is alive and well in the world of professional darts.. Some players are unable to use their "nicknames"
Tim Pusey, known as "The Magnet"
Owen "The Master" Bates...Wot's it all coming to!
 
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Non of what I heard on the program was any different to the views you will hear and I hear in a male orientated working class working environment, or in a beaters trailer for that matter.
I completely agree. But the police should be held to a higher standard if they're to reclaim any respect from the public. I'm uneasy about the underhanded methods used to expose the behaviour, but perhaps it was necessary in this case? Sometimes a tree needs to be sicken
 
The ramifications are not the sacking of the 10 staff featured, as they should be. No one need these sorts of people in the job. The ramifications are the thousands of good, honest officers that will resign because they are being tarred with the same brush…

Policing in the UK is on the brink of collapse. Moral is a distant memory and people cannot be replaced with the calibre required.
There is no calibre, or a different calibre at best since they all changed from Force to Service, employed midgets with degrees who cant handle themselves in a scrap
 
BBC Panorama, still banging the woke drums. Snide undercover reporters, I suspect... can't bring myself to watch the programme any longer.

Edit; Woke is alive and well in the world of professional darts.. Some players are unable to use their "nicknames"
Tim Pusey, known as "The Magnet"
Owen "The Master" Bates...Wot's it all coming to!
Exactly this, Put someone undercover anywhere and they will find something to fault and the BBC knew this, It would not make good reading or watching if the BBC came fwd and said undercover journalist found nothing wrong, It does not make it right but it will happen across all societies, Male or female, Religions, Race, it goes on and on
 
BBC Panorama, still banging the woke drums. Snide undercover reporters, I suspect... can't bring myself to watch the programme any longer.

Edit; Woke is alive and well in the world of professional darts.. Some players are unable to use their "nicknames"
Tim Pusey, known as "The Magnet"
Owen "The Master" Bates...Wot's it all coming to!
Cut the BBC out of my life in 2021,best thing I ever did.Erosion of the mind listening to their bile🤮🤮
 
There’s quite a litany of ‘entertainers’ over the years ( - dj’s and others with access to youngsters in particular but by no means exclusively) that have been found to have less than saintly actions as opposed to their hitherto ‘peerless’ reputations; the sanctimonious hypocrisy of the BBC is hard to accept, given their otherwise ‘wokey’ affectations.
 
A love the word sanctimonious & spell check 🤣
& we have the same feelings for good old aunty
Look at that tripe celebrity traitor’s 🤷‍♂️
 
My life would much less rich without the BBC - but I restrict myself pretty much to Radio 3 and Radio 4.
I think if I watched a load of crap on the BBC, there'd be a risk I might form the view that the BBC was crap when in fact I was simply making bad choices?
 
My life would much less rich without the BBC - but I restrict myself pretty much to Radio 3 and Radio 4.
I think if I watched a load of crap on the BBC, there'd be a risk I might form the view that the BBC was crap when in fact I was simply making bad choices?
BBC 4 was where the good choices ended, radio four is woke garbage and propoagnda these days, but I’ll cut radio 3 some slack.

No time for the television period, that stopped with the demise of BBC4, Horizon, Civilisation.

The dumbing down of the masses is a crime.
 
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