Police (Scotland) warning...?

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Mossypaw

Mossypaw

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OK, long story short. Last Saturday I tried to stop a fight in our village pub by putting my arm in front of someone to stop them getting to someone else. For doing this I received a punch to the face, I did not retaliate.
Last night, after 11pm, two squad cars arrive at the house and relieve me of all rifles, ammo, primers, the lot.
The person I ‘obstructed’ is claiming they were assaulted ! The local policeman raised his eyebrows as he said it, as the individual in question has had previous dealings with this kind of thing.
The upshot of all this is that I will be going to a police station to be formally interviewed at some point. What is my best plan regarding police warnings / cautions. I know that accepting a caution is admitting guilt, but what about a warning (Scotland). There is no way that I assaulted anyone, but I know the police have to respond to all reports.
How will I proceed to safeguard my rifles ?
 
Get lawyered up. Seriously. Don't say anything without one and DO NOT indulge in what you think is innocent "chit chat" with anybody after you've been cautioned as anything you say after that moment is admissible in Court. Lastly as any good lawyer will tell you if you're innocent "sing like a bird". If you're guilty it's "No comment" to every question. Finally your lawyer will tell you that you should make an complaint of assault against the other person. Lastly the advice I've given you here has been free. And that's about all its value...nothing. See a lwayer.
 
any witnesses, who are willing to back up your side of the story, [not saying you were in any way wrong] but if a couple of his mates lie, it would be good to be able to refute it with independent witnesses. as above get lawyered up. you may not need it but good luck. I've worked doors long ago and it was always at the back of my mind a bad decision would end my gun ownership, fortunately it never happened.
 
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I'm no expert but I would gather witnesses who saw exactly what happened and give their names to the polis. Get your self a lawyer and do NOT accept a caution. If you are a BASC member get them on the case. Lawyers can be funded through your home insurance policy so check with your provider to see if you are covered. Make sure you file a complaint against the bloke who lied and ensure you get your guns back in mint condition or claim from the police for new.
This is a travesty - guilty until proved innocent is not part of our (collective) legal system.
Let us know how you fare and the very best of luck with it.
 
Thanks guys, bit of an awkward situation as the other ‘guy’ was actually female and my sons ex !
I’ve spent today pacing round the house expecting a squad car only to find out this evening that there was a major RTC locally this afternoon and I don’t think I’m top priority with the police anymore, hate waiting ! and typing without specs, she smacked them.
 
Lastly you may be, perhaps, arrested after arriving at the Police Station. That's not unlikely (although I'd think it outrageous) and once they've done that they've the right...certainly in England...to then search your home and to search any other premises or property you are "in control" of. They can, yes, also then put you in a cell until they decide they want to have their interview. So be aware of that and make sure that you are aware of the possibility of it. You're right is to be fed. To have a drink. Use it. Keeping fed is important to your physical and mental wellbeing. And if you are arrested as you have guns you may or may not have an interview with the Police Station nurse about how your state of mind is.
 
Been there, seen it, done it. Invited for an interview, for 12 Noon, arrested on arrival (I knew that would happen I'd been told beforehand) belt off, shoelaces out, kept in a cell until 1.00pm, interviewed until 9.00pm then invited to stay overnight until being interviewed again the next morning and a custody review. And then bailed. So it's important you keep fed, keep up your personal hygiene...have a wash...request a toothbrush...cups of tea and etc.. It's a game KES it has it's own rules and if you know those rules you play the game at less disadvantage than if you don't know them and use them.
 
Mossypaw said:
Thanks guys, bit of an awkward situation as the other ‘guy’ was actually female and my sons ex !
I’ve spent today pacing round the house expecting a squad car only to find out this evening that there was a major RTC locally this afternoon and I don’t think I’m top priority with the police anymore, hate waiting ! and typing without specs, she smacked them.
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that explains a lot, a bloke would wake up in the morning with a bump and realise he'd been a bit of a dick last night at the local, whereas a chick,, especially one bitter about a breakup with your son in this case is going to make everyone's
life miserable as possible.

"you know sometimes I miss my ex so much I wish I could remember where I hid the body!" :-| ;)
 
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Best of luck, Mossypaw.

1. get a solicitor (and preferably not the free ones they give out at the station);
2. do not accept any cautions or warnings or make any other admissions of guilt;
3. get BASC, SACS or whoever to help you;
4. formally report the assault on you by the lady to the police;
5. gather witnesses from the pub;
6. be really helpful to the police: at some point they will end up picking a side - make sure it is yours.

You'll get through this, mate. Stay strong, stay rational, and stay polite!

Kindest regards,

Carl
 
Go round the house. Check for any stray ammo coat pockets the lot. Make sure you are not over your limits or have a stray round from a previous calibre. You wouldn’t be the first to be caught out that way.
As others have said not a word without legal representation.
Don’t get riled if they get in your face. Another favourite tactic if they are that way inclined. The second you push back they have you.
It is a sad indictment of our society that the most law abiding members are treated as second class.
 
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Go round the house. Check for any stray ammo coat pockets the lot. Make sure you are not over your limits or have a stray round from a previous calibre. You wouldn’t be the first to be caught out that way.
As others have said not a word without legal representation.
Don’t get riled if they get in your face. Another favourite tactic if they are that way inclined. The second you push back they have you.
It is a sad indictment of our society that the most law abiding members are treated as second class.
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Strange thing is, the local bobby warned me about this. “Don’t miss anything” he said, “you may get an inspection from licensing once they here about this”
 
Do you know if the pub has cctv. If so it will be worth mentioning it to your solicitor. They can chase it up and obtain copies if police haven't. Need to do it quick though before it gets wiped with the rollover systems.
List as many witnesses as you can and get your friend you were defending to be a key witness. Your solicitor should brief you on whether you have a lawful excuse ie if you did assault the other person was it to defend your friend etc etc. Above all...get legal advice (duty solicitors are all for no comment interviews because they might get the business afterwards but in effect they delay a lot of stuff unnecessarily)
 
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