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The EU in or out


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I heard one of the many commentators on the radio discussing the other day, apparently out of this £55 million we get £33 million back in way of subsidies etc, now that is good business isn't it. I think I have had enough of supporting this joke of an organisation and want out. All the other EU members want us to stay and it isn't hard to see why. As far as I can see trade will carry on, with whom we want, UK laws will be made in the UK, our borders will be ours, Government policy will be ours, the list goes on and on. There may be good reason why we should stay in but no one has made the case to me, at this moment in time, and I cannot see anything changing my mind my vote will be to leave.

I know my list of objections may be simplistic but I am a simple man and if they cannot prove to me that these obvious issues are not being dealt with in a manner that is fair to the UK citizenry, security and future how can they expect me to trust them on the complicated issues within the EU setup. I cannot see any sense in belonging to a club that takes your money, wants to rule your country, receive benefits to send overseas, come and use our health service and generally undermine the British way of life. I'm getting wound up now I shall stop before I say things I shall regret!.

John

out im sure there are a lot of unseen benifits of being in but i seen on the news the other morning its costing us £55 million a day to be in ok i expect theres a lot of hype and spin on that £55 million a day but even if its only half £27.5 million a day buys a lot of new schools, hospitals keeps a lot of people off the streets and helps a lot of kids out who are living in poverty or are in situations that they have no power over
 
The EU take money from this country £350 million a day and give it to other countries in the EU to make them equal to us.
Makes no sense to me.

Its like the local joinery company that has all the specialised equipment to make expensive doors giving the little company down the road that makes the same doors,but it takes them 5 times as long so they are five times more expensive that they cannot sell them.
So the company with the equipment gives the small company a gift of all the money to buy the equipment they need to produce the doors in the same time but because they did not have to pay for the equipment the can sell the doors cheaper and put the other company out of buisness.

See I told you it makes no sense
 
The biggest issue seems to be trade.
Our trade without barriers with Ireland is massive.
Now that trade will continue but the EU could put a levy on goods entering the EU from the UK.
That then will make our exports more expensive and therefore less attractive to European buyers.
The next biggest issue would seem to be our financial sector.
Now I hate them as much as the next man. Personally I would have let them burn in the crisis. Yes short term it would have been painful but longer term it would have been some necessary culling.
However they do bring an substantial amount of money in to our economy and again as much as I hate those criminal bonuses, quite a bit of it trickles down in to our economy too.

But I genuinely don't know.
I'm thinking of the world my kids will inherit, it is my obligation to think about the future.
 
The biggest issue seems to be trade.
Our trade without barriers with Ireland is massive.
Now that trade will continue but the EU could put a levy on goods entering the EU from the UK.
That then will make our exports more expensive and therefore less attractive to European buyers.
The next biggest issue would seem to be our financial sector.
Now I hate them as much as the next man. Personally I would have let them burn in the crisis. Yes short term it would have been painful but longer term it would have been some necessary culling.
However they do bring an substantial amount of money in to our economy and again as much as I hate those criminal bonuses, quite a bit of it trickles down in to our economy too.

But I genuinely don't know.
I'm thinking of the world my kids will inherit, it is my obligation to think about the future.

In December our exports to the EU were £10.4 billion, whilst we imported goods from the EU to the value of £17 billion. So we were a net importer from the EU to the tune of over £6 billion in December alone.

In that respect the EU would seemingly have a lot more to lose by imposing tarriffs on UK goods than it would gain.

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People working in financial services will probably vote to stay IN, for fear of a lot of the City of London work moving to Frankfurt, and the spin-off/ripple affecting them personally.

Maybe the big banks. I am in financial services and the regulations are ridiculous. Lets not forget that most companies do not trade with Europe or have European clients and yet have to abide by all the rules. This is the change that I woud like to see.
 
Out, because whilst an out vote will give us a few years of uncertainty, in ten years I think it will be much of a muchness economically speaking.

But we will have control of our borders and frankly I think the country I'd leave to my kids would be more to my liking.

my heart says out, my head says it's a bit of a wash provided we're brave - so out it is.
 
Besides the money actually paid to the EU, don't forget to add all the money that the economic migrants are sending out of the country. About 6 years ago, I so a figure of £2.3Bn that was going to Poland alone. Then there is all that is sent back to Romania by the Big Issue sellers.
 
I would like to know (genuinely) what is going to happen to all the european migrants, if we vote out.
I know that the out won't be overnight but will we be saying ' you need to pack your bags and leave (if you don't have a job)?
 
As a further thought the hotelier industry is served by a huge and willing Eastern European workforce, if we leave the EU what happens to this side of the coin? Try getting UK people to do these sort of jobs - they are simply too lazy.

Then there is Agriculture - fruit / veg pickers - no willing / cheaper labour production costs will soar for an industry that already finds it hard to compete. And before anyone says slap cheap imports with duty tax that could be reciprocated, and also we do not just import food from the EU hence we would be less competitive world wide.

I am not advocating an In vote, I am just saying it is not a straight forward migrant or for that matter legislative matter.

ATB,

HL
 
As a further thought the hotelier industry is served by a huge and willing Eastern European workforce, if we leave the EU what happens to this side of the coin? Try getting UK people to do these sort of jobs - they are simply too lazy.

Then there is Agriculture - fruit / veg pickers - no willing / cheaper labour production costs will soar for an industry that already finds it hard to compete.
I think it will be difficult to get people, already here, to leave, especially if they are parents of children born in Britain. My ex-lodgers, from Slovakia, have had two children since coming here 8 years ago. The latest one has to be registered British because they have been here more than 5 years. Slovakia will not allow duel nationality. Can of worms, or what.
 
There would still be work visas, just as there are for non-EU workers.

I can see advantages and disadvantages on both sides - don't know how I'll vote...
 
People employed/involved in officialdom will probably vote to stay IN, because they enjoy a good living enforcing all the rules and regulations that Brussels creates.
 
As a further thought the hotelier industry is served by a huge and willing Eastern European workforce, if we leave the EU what happens to this side of the coin? Try getting UK people to do these sort of jobs - they are simply too lazy.

Then there is Agriculture - fruit / veg pickers - no willing / cheaper labour production costs will soar for an industry that already finds it hard to compete. And before anyone says slap cheap imports with duty tax that could be reciprocated, and also we do not just import food from the EU hence we would be less competitive world wide.

I am not advocating an In vote, I am just saying it is not a straight forward migrant or for that matter legislative matter.

ATB,

HL

If a non skilled job is available then those on benefits should do them. No free lunches.
 
I've just ordered a great big European flag to put in my window in the absence of any decent campaign literature. So there.
 
People working in financial services will probably vote to stay IN, for fear of a lot of the City of London work moving to Frankfurt, and the spin-off/ripple affecting them personally.

Switzerland seems to do well enough without running to Frankfurt......
 
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