Re-introduction of Large predators

[long_range_rob]

a few farmers when this was discussed before said "bring it on"

Farmers wife needs a new coat?

My only question would be, who is legally responsible for any injury or loss caused by a reintroduced lynx/wolf/bear/masterfon? If it starts to look like a threat to the bank balances of the reintroduceees (not sure that’s a word ) then they’ll run for the hills.

 

[VSS]

Farmers wife needs a new coat?

My only question would be, who is legally responsible for any injury or loss caused by a reintroduced lynx/wolf/bear/masterfon? If it starts to look like a threat to the bank balances of the reintroduceees (not sure that’s a word ) then they’ll run for the hills.

It would be the reintroducers.
The reintroducees would be the lynx/wolves/bears/mastodons etc, and I doubt they have bank accounts.

 

[Ratcatcher]

I note with interest that a bear has eaten a motorcyclist this week in Romania, how inconvenient that these apex predators just won't stick to eating what the rewilders want! Pretty inconvenient for the poor bloody motorcyclist too!!

 

[VSS]

I note with interest that a bear has eaten a motorcyclist this week in Romania, how inconvenient that these apex predators just won't stick to eating what the rewilders want! Pretty inconvenient for the poor bloody motorcyclist too!!

I have seen so many videos posted online of tourists taking stupid chances with bears, so it's hardly surprising really.
People feed them at the roadside, try to get "selfies" with the bears, and so on. The bears become completely habituated to people, and if no snacks are forthcoming they're bold enough to take the next step.
The bears aren't to blame for this. People are the problem.

 

[Bo Diddley]

Yep, the idiot stopped to feed a bear with three cubs apparently...

 

[angusb1]

Yep, the idiot stopped to feed a bear with three cubs apparently...

Darwin's natural selection right there. I hope the motorcyclist had no children.

 

[Reloader708]

Im actually on my second visit into eastern Europe courtesy of some very obliging hunting organisations, the main subject being to find out more about the impacts large apex predators have on Roe deer populations.
The general consensus being, absolutely devastating! Roe deer numbers have been reduced to a level where shooting is almost not needed at all. After many miles visiting different sites, signs of Roe deer are relatively scarce comparable to what im used to observing in scotland.
The behaviour is also greatly adapted, supposedly through constantly feeling pressurised. A lynx eating nothing but Roe will clear about one a week, but they are optimal foragers so if anything else crosses their path......
Also lynx are not a solution in regards to reduced numbers of our larger deer, eg red, fallow, they're simply too large for them and our countryside is far from ideal, there not being anywhere near enough tree cover.
Some of the places we're comparing ourselves to have over 50% forestry cover and no people.

The main takeaway which is outstandingly obvious is how urbanised the UK is. Its one big suburb from top to bottom.
We've created an environment which is not nature friendly so it'll be very difficult to re establish lynx certainly into southern England.

this is the view from an observation tower which was bloody high! Here you're looking over hundreds of square km of forest, I dont know of anywhere in the UK like this.
Id absolutely love to live in a country where you'd need to be aware of bears but the UK is far from that currently.

Two night ago our guides bear alarm was activated, the bear was raiding a farmers bee hives but we arrived to late to see him, I must say I did feel a little apprehensive looking through the thermal but alls we found was this track.

Doesn't look much but he was estimated at 300kg.

Conclusion, id love to live in a country where we might have an encounter with a moose or a 300kg bear but 90% of the UK is far from that. Too many people, too many cars, too many houses.

 

[Reloader708]

these are young moose which will be eventually reintroduce into areas that currently have non.
Apparently close proximity to humans has no effect on their ability to adapt to a wild habitat.
Moose are general impervious to lynx, wolves being their main adversary.

 

[25 Sharps]

What generation raised these youngsters who can't grow food and don't know where food came from?

What generation instigated importing exotic food due to cheap air transport and even cheaper foreign labour?

It's easy to blame the current generation of youngsters but it was the generation who raised them and their parents who instigated the practices that are common today.

The younger generation today are far more aware of how the world is being over exploited and are concerned about what state the world will be in for their kids than what their parents of grandparents were.

Some are, most couldn’t give a crap.