hedge hunter
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Never botherd neck turning but every thing else I do.if I dont I feel iv missed doing something important .its OCD 
Re-Sizing NEW Brass?
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Stalker62
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Not to be laughed at.
Now if you will excuse me I have to go into the garden.
Lights on. Lights off. Lights on. Lights off. Turn around three times. Leave room...
ChesterP
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I run all new brass through my own FL dies. New brass can be surprisingly out from these dimensions and especially on neck tension which invariably is too tight from new. As others have said, it both ensures consistency (dinged necks can be in that box of shiny new brass) and that next firing they'll shoot to the same PoA. I also uniform primer pockets and occasionally debur flash holes if needed.
hedge hunter
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And I thought I was going too far with my prep.it just let's you know that you have covered all the bases if something is not right
ChesterP
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I've even been known after all that to prime mine, fill with powder and ball and shoot the things
Cooter
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All that case prep work spoilt by using it!!! Whats the world comming to?I've even been known after all that to prime mine, fill with powder and ball and shoot the things
I was talking to Guesty one time when we were going over resizing and case prep for the 17 Hornet.
He recalled an occasion when he was out with a game keeper, using Guestys' 17 Hornet, and he watched in dismay as the keeper ejected 'spent' cases from the Hornet, which had taken considerable work to prepare and fill, never to be seen again.
I normally have two 'classes' of brass, one for field work, which I don't mind loosing, and the other for Sunday best (so to speak).
I use the Sunday best, which are fully prepped from new, for about the first five reloads, then they get downgraded to the field work pile.
Woodsmoke
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its OCD
You mean 'CDO', of course.
Very similar, but in alphabetical order. As it's supposed to be
ChesterP
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I think that there was a discussion on this over on UKV Muir a while back and many comp shooters now do indeed FL size but some also use custom dies to reform necks for uniform and precise neck tension. Then there's the hand lathes for shaving fractions of a thou or more off the case necks where needed as part of uniforming them, and the use of run-out gauges to ensure that seating results in no more than a thou of run out.
Just for curiosity, I took a dial gauge about a year back to check runout on my SST loads (that is one long bullet in the 140grn 6.5 SST!) and found using the Redding Micrometer seating die with VLD insert, I was averaging 2 thou. Not sure what the extra thou that the bench rest guys achieves compared with say neck tension uniformity or any of the other variables.
I guess that in competition, you aim to tune all the variables to be optimal which is a far cry from the old gamekeepers standard of fill a 308 case to the neck with Vhit N140 and bash a round in! (this is a true story from ahem, an elderly gent who hadn't quite grasped the niceties of reloading and might have had a very different result if using N130! For a start, he'd not have reached such an age I suspect....).
Just for curiosity, I took a dial gauge about a year back to check runout on my SST loads (that is one long bullet in the 140grn 6.5 SST!) and found using the Redding Micrometer seating die with VLD insert, I was averaging 2 thou. Not sure what the extra thou that the bench rest guys achieves compared with say neck tension uniformity or any of the other variables.
I guess that in competition, you aim to tune all the variables to be optimal which is a far cry from the old gamekeepers standard of fill a 308 case to the neck with Vhit N140 and bash a round in! (this is a true story from ahem, an elderly gent who hadn't quite grasped the niceties of reloading and might have had a very different result if using N130! For a start, he'd not have reached such an age I suspect....).
Stalker62
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I literally have no idea what all this nonsense is about.
However, this Thread, Lockdown, Internet Access and lack of Wife Supervision means I have just ordered the following:-
(No idea what on earth I am going to do with it all when it rocks up).
However, this Thread, Lockdown, Internet Access and lack of Wife Supervision means I have just ordered the following:-
(No idea what on earth I am going to do with it all when it rocks up).
| RCBS Case Master Gauging Tool |
| RCBS Ball Micrometer |
| K&M Neck Turners in .30 |
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I don't see any harm in sizing new brass, but there will be merit in uniforming necks. If you only have expander dies then FL sizing new brass makes sense. I neck turn most of my brass and they get expanded slightly as part of this process. Beyond that it's FL sizing every time.
Nice video. Eric Cortina did well to help dispel a pretty out-dated practice, and it's nice to get a consensus from so many top level shooters, although there will still be some nay-sayers...! (Same goes for some other reloading steps that folk swear by
Nice video. Eric Cortina did well to help dispel a pretty out-dated practice, and it's nice to get a consensus from so many top level shooters, although there will still be some nay-sayers...! (Same goes for some other reloading steps that folk swear by
Indeed! Thank you for posting. ~Muir
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