Recommended RFD in London for Rifle (plus ammunition?)transfer to RFD in Scotland?

[Mac78]

Hi guys, looking at an RFD to RFD rifle transfer from London to Scotland, plus ammunition if that's viable?

My local RFD charges £25 to recieve a Firearm, which seems very reasonable.
Any recommendations for RFD's in London, as I understand some charge £100 for a transfer!!!

Can ammunition also be transferred?

 

[Greenmist]

Liase with the seller, Londons a big place, you might get the name of a suitable RFD who is the wrong side of London for the seller to get it to

 

[Mac78]

Liase with the seller, Londons a big place, you might get the name of a suitable RFD who is the wrong side of London for the seller to get it to

West of CBD but they'll happily travel to wherever.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

@suburban bushwacker can you suggest anyone?

 

[User00048]

Hi guys, looking at an RFD to RFD rifle transfer from London to Scotland, plus ammunition if that's viable?

My local RFD charges £25 to recieve a Firearm, which seems very reasonable.
Any recommendations for RFD's in London, as I understand some charge £100 for a transfer!!!

Can ammunition also be transferred?

Most RFD's won't or can't transfer ammunition to another (distant) RFD for a few reasons. They may not hold the relevent account, so Parcelforce aren't able to carry them like they can with sect 1 firearms and sect 2 firearms (to and throw RFD's with firearms accounts) and would need an account with a specialist like Circle Express. A specialist like Circle Express charges an exceptional amount for such a distance and even though weight also plays a factor, due to the nature of carriage, you would be looking at atleast £120+ now for that distance (I would think). Seperate to your firearm (s) with Parcelforce.

You are far better off trying to source ammunition locally. Your local RFD may even be able to source your favourite brand/type from the importor/UK distributer, if they have a contact with them and have an order with them already coming soon (that they could throw a small amount on top of) or otherwise it may have to be a large/bulk order of that ammunition to cover carriage etc. Distributors obviously have the specialist account to send ammunition to various RFD's around the country but they can keep their costs lower due to the nature of their business and using the service all the time i.e. getting better rates.

 

[suburban bushwacker]

Yes easy. May’s of london are very helpful
Where in Scotland do you want them shipped to?
Ed in Edinburgh
Ralph/Ben in Glasgow
There’s a chap in Thurso who was happy to help.
It’s the ammo that will cost you.

 

[Mac78]

Yes easy. May’s of london are very helpful
Where in Scotland do you want them shipped to?
Ed in Edinburgh
Ralph/Ben in Glasgow
There’s a chap in Thurso who was happy to help.
It’s the ammo that will cost you.

Have been in touch with West London Gun Co. who will happily send to Dicksons at Dunkeld.

There's only about 150 rounds of .243 ammunition unfortunately, so not viable to send.

 

[Greenmist]

Have been in touch with West London Gun Co. who will happily send to Dicksons at Dunkeld.

There's only about 150 rounds of .243 ammunition unfortunately, so not viable to send.

Perhaps ask if any site members are heading north (with appropriate ticket) and can transport for you, no harm in asking

 

[Mac78]

Perhaps ask if any site members are heading north (with appropriate ticket) and can transport for you, no harm in asking

What's the law with regards to someone else being in possession of a Firearm that's not itemised on their ticket?

If I recall Shotguns can be 72hrs without Police notification, but unsure of Firearms.

 

[User00048]

What's the law with regards to someone else being in possession of a Firearm that's not itemised on their ticket?

If I recall Shotguns can be 72hrs without Police notification, but unsure of Firearms.

Really in reality they would need to be an RFD, as there isn't an allowance like that with a section 1 firearm. Anything being taken on a Firearm certificate authority, would have to be written onto that certificate (with the certificate having had that specific authority to be in possession of that rifle prior to it being written on).
Section 1 ammunition of course is much simpler.
Although as said on other threads, your best option is talking to the firearms dept with your legal questions. Basc or your shooting insurance legal dept are also very good choices for legal advice.

 

[Greenmist]

What's the law with regards to someone else being in possession of a Firearm that's not itemised on their ticket?

If I recall Shotguns can be 72hrs without Police notification, but unsure of Firearms.

I should have been more clear, the transfer of the firearm is dealt with, I meant for the ammo which is the reason I quoted his post relating to it

 

[suburban bushwacker]

I should have been more clear, the transfer of the firearm is dealt with, I meant for the ammo which is the reason I quoted his post relating to it

If I fly I buy. If I drive I take hand loads. There are RFD who you can then leave boxes of handloads with. Im planning to leave a favourite rifle up there with an RFD. Problem being, just like the kids, they’re all my favourite

 

[Heym SR20]

To be honest London to the Central Belt is not that far especially if lots of ammo is involved. Just get in the car, ring up a friend or member of family close to London. Drive down, have a good evening and catch up. Pick up gun and ammo and drive northwards. It’s about 400 miles each way.

By the time you have faffed with RFD fees etc etc and travelling to and fro etc you may as well drive.

Ditto with flying. Yes it’s technically quicker from airport to airport. But all the faff either side, especially if carrying firearms.

As for temporary possession of a firearm on a FAC - this is basic stuff gents. You are only authorised to possess and use the firearms as listed on your FAC. There a few specific exceptions - estate rifle facility and under a Home office approved rifle club, but unlike a shotgun you cannot simply borrow a rifle for a few days.

 

[AlexD]

By the time you have faffed with RFD fees etc etc and travelling to and fro etc you may as well drive.

Driving is far more expensive in costs, time and risk of serious hassle.
It costs me 3 to 4 fill ups to get from Edinburgh to London and back in a Landrover, at £100 a time or more, so £350 straight off in fuel alone.
Then add on 1000 miles of wear + depreciation.
Then add a day of time there and day back (with miles of 50 mph zones on motorways, the time of getting there and back in a day are long gone even if one would be reckless by taking all the hard sweets in the world to chew to stop you falling asleep (as adults cannot nod off when eating) along with a tub of caffeine tablets.
Because it is two days, add an overnight hotel at £100+ and the cost of eating out.
Landrovers are not the most reliable cars either so the vehicle itself can spring another surprise that you would be much less likely to have in any other vehicle. Of course, you may have a Toyota.
On top of all of that is the camera risk: forget to put on the cruise control for a few miles and one sees a couple of flashes in the rear mirror, especially when the speeds keep changing up and down. Camera speed limits in S. England seem to be MUCH stricter than those in Scotland. Those flashes are expensive and hit your FAC at renewal time. Navigators, even Wayz, do NOT include all permanent cameras even on the M6 and A1/M1 let alone temporary ones or vans parked on bridges with zoom lenses and lasers.

Overall budget on £550+ for driving from Edinburgh to London if your time is free, and multiples of that if it is not. One can fly to the USA and back for that cost!

Compare that with an email or call to the team at Edinburgh Rifles who for £30 handle the whole lot, including the courier, without stacking sender and receiver RFD charges: it is a great service, much appreciated and avoids you needing to post your FAC to anyone. Also had great experience with the chaps at John Dickson in Dunkeld.

Or, you could view it as a family trip if your folk live abroad (translation for non-Scots, a tongue in cheek phrase used even by staunch unionists that means "to or via England"), cultural visit to the Hull Opera on the way, a shoot to attend where you need to carry back things that can bleed, or a work commitment you can intertwine involving a load too heavy to fly with. Those are the only reasons I would have for driving abroad now.