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[25 Sharps]

I am slowly getting a larder up together in the back of my workshop in my outbuilding, had a couple of days off this week to finish insulating, boarding and I am now half way through the white cladding

It will be kitted out with stainless table, stainless sink, hand wash sink and two domestic larder fridges, if things go well I’ll look at a chiller unit for the whole room but that’s quite an investment, as was the cladding to be fair!

My plan would be to have animal hung in skin In one fridge then when prepping, skin animal place in the second empty fridge whilst I clean down from skinning, then take animal back out for butchering.

Does that sound acceptable or would they insist on a separate skinning area? If they did then the only separate area I would have would be the workshop next door.

 

[25 Sharps]

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[willie_gunn]

I am slowly getting a larder up together in the back of my workshop in my outbuilding, had a couple of days off this week to finish insulating, boarding and I am now half way through the white cladding

It will be kitted out with stainless table, stainless sink, hand wash sink and two domestic larder fridges, if things go well I’ll look at a chiller unit for the whole room but that’s quite an investment, as was the cladding to be fair!

My plan would be to have animal hung in skin In one fridge then when prepping, skin animal place in the second empty fridge whilst I clean down from skinning, then take animal back out for butchering.

Does that sound acceptable or would they insist on a separate skinning area? If they did then the only separate area I would have would be the workshop next door.
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What you are suggesting sounds like it will be perfect.

I have just the one room, with just one chiller, and just one sink.

I hang the carcass in the chiller, then take it out and skin it from the I-beam, then butcher it.

The EHO was absolutely fine with it.

Clearly much depends on the individual EHO, but in my experience they are there to help and assist, not to try to catch you out or insist on needless modifications to a perfectly acceptable larder.

 

[sauer]

the subject of traditional set ups was brought up during my EHO inspection, one where beast comes in one way and leaves at end of process via another exit/ doorway.

i said obviously with my double garage to larder conversion that wasn't feasible but i put in my HACCAP that i would not be skinning a beast at same time as processing a previously skinned carcass, i am single handed and only one stage of the process would be conducted at any one time, and that in-between processes or stages, the area would be cleaned and disinfected and they were more than happy with that .

Paul

 

[LarryLightFoot]

I'm thinking of doing the same, like you would be in my garage where I have a stainless table, chiller etc would that be okay? I should add this isn't the sole use of the garage which is why I'm not sure it will be okay

I’m looking to go down the same route with my garage once I’m up and running, thinking of getting a garden shed to put all diy bits and bobs etc. in, my thoughts are how to approach drainage for the skinning area and processing area as the garage floor is concrete slab . So thinking either large water waste containers , or it’s cutting in a channel to lay a waste pipe to then connect to the mains drainage .

 

[T.eddie]

I’m looking to go down the same route with my garage once I’m up and running, thinking of getting a garden shed to put all diy bits and bobs etc. in, my thoughts are how to approach drainage for the skinning area and processing area as the garage floor is concrete slab . So thinking either large water waste containers , or it’s cutting in a channel to lay a waste pipe to then connect to the mains drainage .

My EHO was happy that as long as the garage floor was painted with a water repellent paint, given that its on a slope with a drain across the front of the garage door I could just mop out towards that which was handy

 

[LarryLightFoot]

My EHO was happy that as long as the garage floor was painted with a water repellent paint, given that its on a slope with a drain across the front of the garage door I could just mop out towards that which was handy

Interesting, I have a concrete slope/ramp in front of my garage door which has a drain channel cut into the slab just in front of where the door closes, was thinking about scrapping the up&over door and getting sealed side hinged doors, laying self levelling concrete as a base to then work off and knocking up some timber to then clad with hygiene board . Got electric in there already and can run water in there . For lifting/winching up carcasses I like the look of what @Tim.243 put together .

 

[T.eddie]

Interesting, I have a concrete slope/ramp in front of my garage door which has a drain channel cut into the slab just in front of where the door closes, was thinking about scrapping the up&over door and getting sealed side hinged doors, laying self levelling concrete as a base to then work off and knocking up some timber to then clad with hygiene board . Got electric in there already and can run water in there . For lifting/winching up carcasses I like the look of what @Tim.243 put together .

Sounds good! Yeah thr winch system he's put together does look really useful!

 

[LarryLightFoot]

Sounds good! Yeah thr winch system he's put together does look really useful!

Think I’ll copy cat it and put in on lockable casters as real estate will be at a premium so if easy to push about then all the better.

 

[25 Sharps]

What you are suggesting sounds like it will be perfect.

I have just the one room, with just one chiller, and just one sink.

I hang the carcass in the chiller, then take it out and skin it from the I-beam, then butcher it.

The EHO was absolutely fine with it.

Clearly much depends on the individual EHO, but in my experience they are there to help and assist, not to try to catch you out or insist on needless modifications to a perfectly acceptable larder.

Great, thanks

 

[25 Sharps]

Interesting, I have a concrete slope/ramp in front of my garage door which has a drain channel cut into the slab just in front of where the door closes, was thinking about scrapping the up&over door and getting sealed side hinged doors, laying self levelling concrete as a base to then work off and knocking up some timber to then clad with hygiene board . Got electric in there already and can run water in there . For lifting/winching up carcasses I like the look of what @Tim.243 put together .

Your channel probably drains to the storm drainage system and if so you shouldn’t be putting gould water down it.

 

[LarryLightFoot]

Your channel probably drains to the storm drainage system and if so you shouldn’t be putting gould water down it.

No actual drain as such just a cut channel in the concrete as such not really what is required but interesting to here what the EHO had mentioned . Much prefer a fully integrated drainage system that ticks all the boxes .

 

[nic531]

it is interesting the drainage... i am not on mains drains so soak away or cess tank?