Sad Day For The Miners

[Yoda]

What a sad day for the miners in North Yorkshire. On the slag heap a week before Christmas and most might not work again.
I bet Maggie is smiling whilst putting logs on the fires down below.

 

[bobt]

They were offered the mine to form a cooperative, and run it themselves, but its not viable?

the waste burner they are building next door needs to blow the exhaust down the mine to get rid of the nasties, odd the pit closed?

 

[JTO]

Just like all the small farmers that Margaret Becket and NuLab put out of business. "We are a rich country and can import our food(now coal), we don't need farmers(now miners)". Dennis Skinner said in Parliament that the hunting ban was nothing to do with cruelty, it was retaliation for the miners.

 

[Kai]

I have been mining since 85 but in 2009 I have been working in a mining museum it's a sad sad day for Britain when the last deep mine closes we still need coal but would rather buy it from other countries who subsidies their coal mines we are an island and can no longer look after ourselves we have no industry coal,iron , ship yards etc all we do today is punch keyboards on computers god forbid another world war we can't manage with out other nations

 

[VSS]

we are an island and can no longer look after ourselves we have no industry coal,iron , ship yards etc all we do today is punch keyboards on computers god forbid another world war we can't manage with out other nations

Worrying, isn't it?

 

[jonevo]

Very sad day for the Miners familys and community.
especially at christmas

 

[dodgyrog]

What a sad day for the miners in North Yorkshire. On the slag heap a week before Christmas and most might not work again.
I bet Maggie is smiling whilst putting logs on the fires down below.

I believe that Labour (Tony Benn) closed most of the mines before Maggie got into power.

 

[2130martin]

Why isnt it viable,how is it cheaper to import the coal?How does that work?

 

[Yoda]

I believe that Labour (Tony Benn) closed most of the mines before Maggie got into power.

The historical data shows that while 212,000 coal mining jobs were lost under the 1964-1970 Labour Government, under Mrs. Thatcher’s 1979-1990 government, the percentage decline in jobs was actually double that.

43 per cent of mining jobs went in the 1960s under Wilson while 80 per cent were lost under Thatcher. Also, as the trend rate of economic growth was lower under Thatcher than Wilson (just 2.8 per cent compared to 3.4 per cent) and unemployment was considerably higher throughout the 1980s than the 1960s, redundant miners had fewer alternative job options as a result of Mrs Thatcher’s stewardship of the industry.

 

[2130martin]

The historical data shows that while 212,000 coal mining jobs were lost under the 1964-1970 Labour Government, under Mrs. Thatcher’s 1979-1990 government, the percentage decline in jobs was actually double that.

43 per cent of mining jobs went in the 1960s under Wilson while 80 per cent were lost under Thatcher. Also, as the trend rate of economic growth was lower under Thatcher than Wilson (just 2.8 per cent compared to 3.4 per cent) and unemployment was considerably higher throughout the 1980s than the 1960s, redundant miners had fewer alternative job options as a result of Mrs Thatcher’s stewardship of the industry.

43% of what and 80% of what?

 

[Markfox]

Such a shame all those people loosing there jobs , why do companies ALWAYS do this just befour Xmas ? Why can't they wait till after at least ?

It it also amazes me that it's cheaper to buy it in from abroad shocking


I do hope they all find work soon enough

 

[rodp]

They were offered the mine to form a cooperative, and run it themselves, but its not viable?

the waste burner they are building next door needs to blow the exhaust down the mine to get rid of the nasties, odd the pit closed?

Be interesting to see just who's in the background of the waste burning project, if anywhere down the line someone is making money who would rather us not know ?

 

[rodp]

Such a shame all those people loosing there jobs , why do companies ALWAYS do this just befour Xmas ? Why can't they wait till after at least ?

It it also amazes me that it's cheaper to buy it in from abroad shocking


I do hope they all find work soon enough

Holidays. It's the only big holiday where all staff are off together. Lot of money to be saved.

 

[jimbo1984]

steelworks are going exactly the same way

 

[Rake Aboot]

Why isnt it viable,how is it cheaper to import the coal?How does that work?

Cause Russians and Colombians get paid a pittance in comparison to British miners.


Most will take a large pay off and will hopefully be just fine. As for the rest, I hope they all find work soon.

 

[2130martin]

Cause Russians and Colombians get paid a pittance in comparison to British miners.


Most will take a large pay off and will hopefully be just fine. As for the rest, I hope they all find work soon.

So,do miners get paid well?

 

[Bandit Country]

The historical data shows that while 212,000 coal mining jobs were lost under the 1964-1970 Labour Government, under Mrs. Thatcher’s 1979-1990 government, the percentage decline in jobs was actually double that.

Errr... so you're comparing job losses over a 6 year term of government with those during an 11 year term.... which is almost double the number of years? Being a cynic I think you can stroke statistics to 'prove' pretty much anything. What I do find hard to understand is the conversion of Drax to wood pellet fuel - which is then imported from the USA! We're wood chipping American forests, shipping it across the Atlantic in (diesel powered?) bulk carriers, all to reduce the UK's carbon footprint ... how does that work? Bonkers - but another factor in the death of coal mining in this Country.

 

[Pedro]

Whatever the politics of the matter, it's a sad indictment that the country that started it in the Industrial Revolution now has no heavy industry to speak of. Steelworks, iron ore mines, coal mines, shipbuilding, railways, motor cars, motorcycles and more, all going down the pan or already disappeared.

 

[nun_hunter]

So,do miners get paid well?

Compard to a Russian or Colombian bloody well paid plus in the uk (and most other developed countries) we have to abide by various laws and environmental restrictions and working practices. Other places don't so can just tear up the environment with no concerns about pollution etc.

People (in general) want stuff that's cheap hence they buy clothes from Primark that fall apart after a year but cost 1/4 the price or a car tyre from China that wears out in half the time of a decent brand. Or buy eggs from battery hens rather than free range. You pay more for quality or from a more ethically sourced background.

 

[2130martin]

Compard to a Russian or Colombian bloody well paid plus in the uk (and most other developed countries) we have to abide by various laws and environmental restrictions and working practices. Other places don't so can just tear up the environment with no concerns about pollution etc.

People (in general) want stuff that's cheap hence they buy clothes from Primark that fall apart after a year but cost 1/4 the price or a car tyre from China that wears out in half the time of a decent brand. Or buy eggs from battery hens rather than free range. You pay more for quality or from a more ethically sourced background.

Sounds like the same old story to me,a pound is only worth a pound........