Scottish deer management - new legislative proposals

Remember how inconsequential they are when you can’t get stalking permission cause you’re not trained and registered.
I have never needed to be trained or registered to get permissions and I have opportunities coming oot my ears. I appreciate that isn't the same for everyone, but that applies now anyway for lots of places. So what's changed? Can't see my local farmer suddenly giving a stuff whether I have DSC1.

As it happens I am both trained and registered but fortunately not limited to DSC X
 
Maybe it will stop some land hogging by non écossaise shooting residents
Naw they need it to justify their ticket.

Bit of ground next to us is one of these 'advertised syndicates' if you know what I mean. Rarely see anyone, they are all English anyway and seem to spend their time looking at my ground.
 
Why would I want to and why should I need to ?
If it doesn’t apply to you or anyone else for that matter then just carry on.
Personal I’d rather have something and not need it than not have it and then need it makes life easier.
Just my thoughts
 
If it doesn’t apply to you or anyone else for that matter then just carry on.
Personal I’d rather have something and not need it than not have it and then need it makes life easier.
Just my thoughts
The thread is about the Scottish governments changes to legislation making it a requirement .
 
I appreciate everyone’s views, but I think personally, that certification standards, training and demonstrate able skill sets when handling firearms and making culling decisions on live quarry, is only most sensible. Esp, when hunting unaccompanied of course. This is the minimum standard of most developed European countries already, and in fact, the harder it is to get a hunting license in countries such as Germany, the greater it seems the appreciation for deer/game handling, management and respect for the overall aspect of hunting.

On the flip side, there’s the notion should we not be allowed to grab our grandfathers under lever from behind the kitchen door and go shoot a whitetail for an outdoor cookup with the boys. After all, hunting is key to humanity’s development and survival as a species.

More hunters with a base level of education will hopefully mean more well balanced culling and deer management plans for good demographic populations. Better safety standards, less accidents.

But then, I see it as well - could you go stalking on your own land without dcs 1 as a farmer, probably not. Is that right or wrong..

I’ve met a lot of people who have been looking for ground and who couldn’t properly age a deer, determine cull worthiness, properly gralloch a deer, track a deer or know how to handle a wounded deer - should they have access to unaccompanied stalking until they learn it properly?
 
I appreciate everyone’s views, but I think personally, that certification standards, training and demonstrate able skill sets when handling firearms and making culling decisions on live quarry, is only most sensible. Esp, when hunting unaccompanied of course. This is the minimum standard of most developed European countries already, and in fact, the harder it is to get a hunting license in countries such as Germany, the greater it seems the appreciation for deer/game handling, management and respect for the overall aspect of hunting.

On the flip side, there’s the notion should we not be allowed to grab our grandfathers under lever from behind the kitchen door and go shoot a whitetail for an outdoor cookup with the boys. After all, hunting is key to humanity’s development and survival as a species.

More hunters with a base level of education will hopefully mean more well balanced culling and deer management plans for good demographic populations. Better safety standards, less accidents.

But then, I see it as well - could you go stalking on your own land without dcs 1 as a farmer, probably not. Is that right or wrong..

I’ve met a lot of people who have been looking for ground and who couldn’t properly age a deer, determine cull worthiness, properly gralloch a deer, track a deer or know how to handle a wounded deer - should they have access to unaccompanied stalking until they learn it properly?
And meanwhile those in the forestry, SNH and government who are making these rules mostly haven’t a clue what a deer actually looks like. They sit behind desks and make up policy.

Bear in mind within the Deer Scotland Act it is within the power of the Scottish Executive to impose conditions on any who are shooting deer - this includes include equipmrnt, training, registration etc. The law is already in place and doesn’t require any parliamentary procedure.
 
And meanwhile those in the forestry, SNH and government who are making these rules mostly haven’t a clue what a deer actually looks like. They sit behind desks and make up policy.

Bear in mind within the Deer Scotland Act it is within the power of the Scottish Executive to impose conditions on any who are shooting deer - this includes include equipmrnt, training, registration etc. The law is already in place and doesn’t require any parliamentary procedure.
Indeed, i think we should ensure that anyone able to make executive parliamentary decisions on deer management all have min. Dsc2
 
I'll be right ****ed off If I have to go out and get my DSC1 when shooting with friends I've been shooting deer for over a year at this point

DSC1 WILL be handy one day dont get me wrong, but Its also not something I wanted to be forced into getting to continue a hobby I have either....
 
I'll be right ****ed off If I have to go out and get my DSC1 when shooting with friends I've been shooting deer for over a year at this point

DSC1 WILL be handy one day dont get me wrong, but Its also not something I wanted to be forced into getting to continue a hobby I have either....
Do it now then, rather than wait until you're forced.
I should say that the DSC1 course is absolutely perfect for someone in your current position, and you'd really enjoy doing it, and benefit enormously.
 
Do it now then, rather than wait until you're forced.
I should say that the DSC1 course is absolutely perfect for someone in your current position, and you'd really enjoy doing it, and benefit enormously.
Yep I agree , beneficial to newbies.
 
Do it now then, rather than wait until you're forced.
I should say that the DSC1 course is absolutely perfect for someone in your current position, and you'd really enjoy doing it, and benefit enormously.
For sure I dont disagree I've heard great things about the test but It would be a shame if its an actual legitimate thing that passes its way through without some sort of other option.

DSC1 Is a four day course isn't it? (or at least that's what BASC advertises as such) For someone that currently does not drive that's a fair unfortunate travel, Thankfully at least for changes like this It probably wont be a year and a half minimum until it passes and comes into effect hopefully driving by then.

I just got insurance last week so DSC1 is ultimately the second in line of things I have do now, then hopefully... a FAC at last? no point going for it until I can drive though. 😅
 
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