Smellydog
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Shotgun for child
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I think the parent using it should be way at the bottom of the pile . this item should be on the juniors own cert not the parent , that's what I did . if it need work etc it matters not being a shotgun can be borrowed . Kids really buy into the whole thing in my experience, when they have their very own kit - even better if they beat the parent a time or two but not so it in anyway appears faked ! The pumps with moderators are very hard for a novice because of the bad ballance and lack of sight picture created by the moderator . Best whatever is chosen its best if the gun shoots slightly high and that really tough to when you have a smaller / shorter/ thinner, frame. A 410 single , maybe cut the stock short and save the offcut for later growing foam cheek riser maybe ? All depends on the individual , I was a big strong lad and i was given a heavy double trap gun with hard hitting shells ( pre- lighter charges used now ) . it didn't help me hit anything but it did bruise my shoulder up some.
To plan borrowing is to me a plan to fail , though i get your point " what if they dont get into it ? " Well buy used tell the seller what its for " i bet most of us including the RFDs will sell it cheaper if they get your not going to be 2nd user . My daughters 20 bore had done through two different young shots who both eventually , in turn outgrew it !
Sorry to quote you on this and i get what you are thinking about wasting a lump of cash but buying right isn't exactly difficult with SH shotguns at this point in time .
no need to apologise about quoting. everyone is entitled to an opinion! I also got a 20 bore silver pigeon as well in the end.
I am not a fan of semi autos I will be checking its empty every 30 seconds
just as safe as anything , its all about the operator . Break actions have been known for discharging on closing the action was taught never to swing the barrels up to the action though , i have experienced a big wallop into the ground in-front of me as a youngster . When an auto has an empty mag the bolt stays wide open , pop a " flag " in it to show open and you wont need to keep re-checking . You can give the junior a lighter recoiling gun if you choose a gas operated Auto , Can be simply used as a single shot early days of training - train the junior mussel awareness and pass each individual shell to them at the beginning .
We borrowed a little Turkish 20 bore I think it was a Yildiz youth model it was excellent for getting the children started.
Then bought a secondhand Beretta silver pigeon which had the stock shortened in sections.
This was great as it allowed the children to use it for clays and driven shooting.
It was a great starter gun. Now sold to a friend for his son to start with.
Then bought a secondhand Beretta silver pigeon which had the stock shortened in sections.
This was great as it allowed the children to use it for clays and driven shooting.
It was a great starter gun. Now sold to a friend for his son to start with.
My son started on a side by side .410 Yildiz. Very light indeed. Good for slightly built or young children. He had a 20b Hatsan semi-auto for a while. It wouldn't cycle reliably with light cartridges which made it a total pain. So I got him a Ylidiz 28b youth model - and that was the gun where he really learned to shoot. Only thing that let it down was that the auto-safe makes the top lever quite stiff to operate for children's hands. Great gun though.
He now outshoots me comfortably with his B525 12b.
He now outshoots me comfortably with his B525 12b.
While it might be 21 gram 20 bore shells are common , 410 shoots 18 gram and both are far easier to find as factory ammo in the required type and quantity. The reason the 28 has never made it in the manufactures eyes , is clients will have bought a 410 or 20 before they actually see a suited 28 bore in the flesh . Such has been the case a long, long while and the 28 will show peaks in popularity but is unlikely to make a fraction of the sales or cartridge availability .
Being often built on a 20 bore frame , really cant see things changing ( even if the none toxic shot thing ends up total )
Sol
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+1 break actions, guns are heavy and little people aren't keen on carrying heavy things for very long at least they'll mostly be holding it 'broken' hung over there arm.
Whilst I'm using a semi as a 'beginner' there not all that pleasant to lug around all day they also dont feel all that nice holding since the stock is probably 2-3" oversized.
Not to mention jammed cartridges, manual chambering and so forth not all really beginner friendly but I'm also quite a bit older than most people jusssst getting into shooting so i have the sense to problem solve with these things.
Whilst I'm using a semi as a 'beginner' there not all that pleasant to lug around all day they also dont feel all that nice holding since the stock is probably 2-3" oversized.
Not to mention jammed cartridges, manual chambering and so forth not all really beginner friendly but I'm also quite a bit older than most people jusssst getting into shooting so i have the sense to problem solve with these things.
Don`t know if there is any truth to it, but I was told that Yildiz own large forests wich supply their own wood blanks & that they also sell to Berretta too. I had a Yildiz .410 sbs with lovely wood on it & ny friend still owns it.
yeah a believe i have been told this
I did this effectively. I’ll share the post. The gun is great, my three sons use it. Youngedt is 5. 10.5” LOP was set for 6 years old but needs a section adding back in now for my 8 year old. I can shoot it and get kills however.
Ruining a lovely little gun II
Bought my son a lovely and very light .410” gun after much searching. The stock was short, but nowhere near short enough! My eldest requires a 10.5” LOP Which means quite a bit off the stock. Like on my other .410” I knew the Prince of Wales half pistol grip would need to come off, and so it did.
forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk
I’ll get the weight, circa 2 lbs
Ollie-m
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i was about 11 when i got a kofs sceptre 20 bore with a youth stock, mind i wasnt a small 11 yr old so a 20 was fine but its served me well the last 5 years and i've just put the adult stock on it that i bought at the same time. main reason for going for a 20 is that its a forever gun with 20 gauge being able to do almost everything
Surely a shotgun is somewhat of an overkill ? I normally find a good clip round the ear suffices ! 
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