Speeding and wrong info = FAC Revocation and Seizure

[Free range rob]

That’s a bad decision though - as you said, raining and he was overtaking…I agree with people being prosecuted if they are making poor decisions, but on a dry summers day with good visibility and a roadworthy vehicle hammering someone for 4mph above the limit seems silly.

Regards,
Gixer

All mitigating circumstances one way or another, and I can pretty be sure to say someone doing 4mph over the limit would not get hammered unless it was a repeat thing,
Hence speed awareness courses, and the unlimited people I know who have had a word in their ear and told to slow down with no further action taken

 

[gixer1]

All mitigating circumstances one way or another, and I can pretty be sure to say someone doing 4mph over the limit would not get hammered unless it was a repeat thing,
Hence speed awareness courses, and the unlimited people I know who have had a word in their ear and told to slow down with no further action taken

Don’t get me wrong - I have had reasonably dealt with in the past (let off!) but I have also seen the other side of the coin - and in my opinion this helps no one, person done, tax payer, police etc.

Regards,
Gixer.

 

[Free range rob]

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Well, by that thinking 80mph is above the limit so should be the same then…it’s still breaking the law!

As I said - I feel he has an excuse, whether it will be accepted is another thing.

The problem we have is that we are says by it be or two poor decisions define a person and they should not have guns - ridiculous if the guy is 45-50 any has a relatively clean record.

I know of a person who had a clean license and was then busted for speeding twice in advance me day! One location was where a speed limit was changed within the 2 months before and the second was on the A9 with average speed cameras. He is not a danger to anyone but had an off day.

Regards,
Gixer

totally agree, 80 is speeding and an offence, show me where I have said it isn’t and condone it ? I don’t think he has an excuse and nor does he or he wouldn’t have pled guilty to it, he may have mitigating circumstances but not an excuse.
Speed limit changed two months, so he knew the limit and then didn’t bother looking at the signs again ? I would call that not paying attention.
And you can dress it up however you like, average camera, fixed camera, speed van, he was STILL speeding, off day or not, he broke the law, he got caught, why whinge about it
I also know a man that was stopped doing about 55-60 in a 30 going through town on a Saturday afternoon, his son was in the car and his leg was nigh on amputated after an accident, he did have an excuse and the police thought so as well and the escorted him to a+e with blues and twos.

 

[NP435]

I used to drive a Porsche 911 Turbo. I wont be silly enough to say anything further on a public forum!

As I say I totally sympathise with him. You're probably right about the 70mph speed limit, but it is what is currently in law and he was 30 mph over. That is an absolute offence so its going to be difficult to argue.

That had to be fun! One of the few cars I wish to drive and can't afford.

 

[Free range rob]

i guess those of you defending the speeding have never lost a loved one as a result of some pricks driving. i have twice. hopefully the next time he will get a 5 year driving ban as well as losing his gun licence. sorry no sympathy hear.

Sorry to hear that and condolences.
I would think at 100+ he will lose his driving licence for 12 months unless he manages a very good defence in court and gets a good judge on the day as I believe it’s instant disqualification @ 100mph

 

[gixer1]

i guess those of you defending the speeding have never lost a loved one as a result of some pricks driving. i have twice. hopefully the next time he will get a 5 year driving ban as well as losing his gun licence. sorry no sympathy hear.

Not sure about others, but have lost someone due to a dopey sh*t crossing the white line on a corner. To me, something that is more common and just as dangerous and rarely enforced.

Regards,
Gixer

 

[JMikeyH]

Sorry to hear that and condolences.
I would think at 100+ he will lose his driving licence for 12 months unless he manages a very good defence in court and gets a good judge on the day as I believe it’s instant disqualification @ 100mph

Not sure where this 100+ has come from, seems to have evolved a la Chinese whispers on this very thread. He was doing 96 and will most likely get points and a court fine

 

[bfltd0]

I seem to recall 10% plus 3 mph.

Hmmmmm.

A friend of mine has had to do a speed awareness course because he was doing 27 in a 20 zone, so that formula works.

However, a friend of his has had to do the same course after being caught doing 24 in a 20 zone.

I think it is much harder to keep to 22 or 23 in a 20 zone than to keep to under 80 on a motorway.

And I readily admit to being one of the cruise control "zombies" who sets it at 72 and sits in the inside lane of the motorway. Unlike some other people I occasionally undertake because they are sitting in the middle lane doing 65 - now that I really fail to understand!

 

[Sandyb]

It is for this reason, whilst I'm the owner of 2 super sports motorbikes, I value my shooting and equipment higher than a weekend blast with friends... Shooting is safer and more enjoyable in so many ways, and doesn't carry the same risks of loss of licence or life...

I still have them as they owe me nothing, and had motorbikes since 1996. I didn't get my first firearm and FAC until 2009.

 

[riflerob]

I haven't read all 6 pages of this, but I'll just say :

You don't need to do a Freedom of Information request and pay, you ask for a 'Subject Access request', which is free.

If you can't remember when something was, just put down that you can't remember the date, and give an approximation.

In my case, I put down that I'd had a speeding conviction in 1994, and a written caution in approximately 1992.

Somewhat to my surprise, North Wales Police had no record of the caution

 

[Liveonce]

I seem to recall 10% plus 3 mph.

don’t rely on that, I had the pleasure of a speeding awareness course for being just over the 30mph limit, the letter stated something like they had a zero limit tolerance on speeding to improve road safety.
Speed camera technology and car speedos are much more accurate these days than when 10% plus 3 was a rule of thumb.

 

[Jeff8861]

A genuine question - if you can’t remember previous convictions, is there a way that you can contact the police or FEO and ask for a print out or something??

@bobthedog @Stalker1962 may know?

Regards,
Gixer

Acro or dbs submission

 

[kes]

https://www.npcc.police.uk/2018%20FOI/Operations/030%2018%20Speed%20Enforcement%20Guidance.pdf

See table at 9.6 - dont read the rest because its mealie mouthed in my opnion and uses Casualty reduction aspiration to justify inappropriate speed limit enforcement.

 

[Benelli m2]

I haven't read all 6 pages of this, but I'll just say :

You don't need to do a Freedom of Information request and pay, you ask for a 'Subject Access request', which is free.

If you can't remember when something was, just put down that you can't remember the date, and give an approximation.

In my case, I put down that I'd had a speeding conviction in 1994, and a written caution in approximately 1992.

Somewhat to my surprise, North Wales Police had no record of the caution

The speed awareness course only stays on your record for 3 years if you go on one its not classed as a conviction

 

[Free range rob]

Not sure where this 100+ has come from, seems to have evolved a la Chinese whispers on this very thread. He was doing 96 and will most likely get points and a court fine

Watch the video again, TWICE by his own admission he was doing 100mph.
Even if only 96 still too damn fast and well over any uk speed limit, stop trying to split hairs

 

[Stalker62]

Simple...

 

[Klenchblaize]

I’ve always understood and accepted that with the grant of an FAC comes the requirement to demonstrate the faith placed in the applicant has not been misjudged, but at what point did it become necessary to show proof of conducting one’s live in pursuit of ‘heroic virtue’ on the application form?

I’m not and never will be a Saint, so please don’t suggest future FAC applications should carry a “verified miracles” tick box! I have no desire to be considered for beatification.
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[Rake Aboot]

Tempted not to get into this but 100mph is no big deal and shouldn’t be made a big deal.

People who I’ve been killed in car accidents have been killed by either driving too fast for the conditions or some else driving to fast for the conditions , the speed involved is moot. It could be 50 or it could be 150 both can be as dangerous as each other.

100 is as safe as any other speed if the conditions allow it.

This speed kills mantra is idiotic.

 

[JMikeyH]

Watch the video again, TWICE by his own admission he was doing 100mph.
Even if only 96 still too damn fast and well over any uk speed limit, stop trying to split hairs

It ain't splitting hairs... 96mph falls into a different penalty bracket to 100mph

 

[Free range rob]

It ain't splitting hairs... 96mph falls into a different penalty bracket to 100mph

NOT what was said in the video, yep different category but still not 70