Fursty Ferret
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Victorinox butchers knives. All you need!
Stalking Knives
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Mate I’m not doing surgery with them, I’m gralloching game.
I’ve got a three year old kid and I can assure you that if I had to buy everything that conformed with “best practice” cleanliness conditions and keep it clean up to that standard then 1) I’d have had to substantially redecorate my house when she was born and 2) I would never get to go stalking because I’d be too busy hosing everything down with god knows what chemical 5 times a day. Ever tried to get sick out of a child’s car seat? Plenty of places for that to get into I can assure you! And then the kid goes and drops a load of raisins in there the next day, then picks them out and eats them. My using a wooden handled knife to gralloch the deer we eat is so far down the list of priorities it’s a non issue.
I’m not saying don’t clean stuff, I’m not saying leave your knife crusted in god knows what and festering away in your car glovebox. Clean it, look after it, take care with what you’re doing and ensuring the cleanest possible carcass lands on the table - 100% in agreement with you on that front, as I’m sure are we all.
I don’t agree that anyone who doesn’t use “best practice” plastic whatever is instantly and irrevocably an irresponsible maniac condemning thousands of people to eat Ebola polluted game. Go and look at an abattoir - loads of places for blood and what not to get into, even the concrete on the floor is porous to an extent.
And that’s before we get into the difference between “best practice” (written by lawyers afraid of getting sued and the HSE) and a legal requirement (which I’m sure we all comply with as responsible hunters), and the difference between that best practice guideline and the real world.
What about the vehicle boots that people put the carcasses into? What about the drag sleds? What about the people who don’t have a sled and just drag it? What about the people who don’t wear latex gloves when they gralloch? What about the chopping boards and butchery tables that people use in their homes?
My game box in my car and my chopping boards are all plastic, and I use plastic handled victorinox knives for larder work - is that all negated because I use a wooden handled field knife? How do I know that Ive got every micron of blood off those after each use? I don’t. I use water and soap. Come on, let’s be realistic
You realise stainless is actually one of the worst for bugs ( it even shield them from cleaning ) this is from the passive film it creates. In the mid eighties its about 50% of my work making this stuff under New Rules ! Copper is the best as it actively kills bugs , many woods also have naturally occurring bug killing features ( it helps the tree survive ) .
TH4
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You really should take advice from the experts pal. Especially people who in 2016 were posting that they had not shot many deer. This guy shoots thousands every year he says. Mind you he may be better spending time in anger management classes.Been advertising on here for over a decade chap.
Doing fine thanks
TH4
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Some people have no idea when you are taking the ****SUPER sterilisation solution.
Just want to make sure like
baguio
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All the stuff you mention is stuff that can be cleaned pretty well. I posted that message below. Pretty simple message. Sadly as usual for this site, the keyboard hero's wade in to ruin the thread! You included sadly!
Mate I think you are taking this way too personally - I’m not attacking you, I’m not calling you names and I’m sure if we met face to face we’d have a beer and get on great
I’ve got a different view point on this one to you - that’s absolutely fine so far as I’m concerned. My point is there’s places for bacteria to hide EVERYWHERE. Based on Bowlands post (which I wasn’t aware of) it may be that stainless steel is worse and properly treated wood is better.
I think as long as you’re keeping your kit clean and in good fettle then that’s fine. I happen to prefer wood and natural materials to synthetic, just my preference. I wash them carefully and keep them clean. Job done.
And if we’re going to go down the route of “but if it prevents one case of XYZ from happening then it’s worth it” then I suspect the powers that be will be focussing on removing our firearms before they start worrying about what our knife handles are made from…
The issue you’re running into here is not that you can’t present your opinion (you can of course) but the fact that you’re stating that anyone who doesn’t agree and comply with you is somehow an idiot. Or a keyboard warrior in my case. You’re not going to get the best out of people that way chap to be honest
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TH4
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And no dishwashers
jimmer.13
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I once left my knife in the truck and grassed a large fallow buck miles away on a scorching hot day late august.
The time to take the round trip to grab the truck etc would of taken a while so I flattened a .308 case and made do.
It did the job at a pinch and was later butchered and eaten. No one was sick or pooped themselves to death either.
Amazing watching Ray Mears gralloch and butcher a deer with an improvised flint then cook it in a hole in the ground, not a drop of hand sanitizer or gloves to be seen. I remember his camera man getting stuck in to the end product. Does he still do his pre DSC dvd's also advocating best practice?
Takes all sorts really but in relation to the OP's question, I reckon I'd much rather have an emberleaf than a piece of flint or some spent brass any day.
Mine just turned up in the post this morning. I shall look forward to christening it!
Obvs won’t look forward to the inevitable Ebola outbreak afterwards, nor to pooping myself to death but then again the downstairs dunny needs a coat of something so this could be seen as two birds with one stone I guess!
Obvs won’t look forward to the inevitable Ebola outbreak afterwards, nor to pooping myself to death but then again the downstairs dunny needs a coat of something so this could be seen as two birds with one stone I guess!
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jon 12
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But at least it's in stock, with a good chance of getting it
Elmer fudd 1
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Appreciate you’ve probably made your mind by now but do consider the Danum knives, Alan let me be a right pain in designing my dream knife, from handle profile changes to special handle material I had imported from the states. Knife is faultless and really feels like a piece of art in the hand. A pleasure to use
One thing I regret on my knife is the loop hole. What on earth was I thinking. Didn’t cross my mind to say leave it out.
Pull lanyard? darn useful thing with could wet hands and a sheath with very positive friction retention ! Gets in the way on smaller knives and can be another couple of mins to remove the cord and clean the tube inside and clean the cordage . utterly useless without the cordage
I dont do them on the muntjac model but i do on nearly every other knife unless requested otherwise . The muntjac has a handle that gives a good grip even with a relatively small amount of handle to grip.
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