the_greenman
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Sadly their production of the different calibres has ceased and they're only making it in one calibre at the moment as far as I'm aware.
Stutzen Rifles
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Heym SR20
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I personally am not a fan of short barrelled rifles, and these include most Stutzens. I am 6ft with long arms and just find them too short and also loud.
The original Steyr Mannlichers I really like - the ones with forward bolt handle and proper steel rotary magazine. Many are full stocked carbines, but i prefer the half stock full length ones.
The original Steyr Mannlichers I really like - the ones with forward bolt handle and proper steel rotary magazine. Many are full stocked carbines, but i prefer the half stock full length ones.
spannulman
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there are usually loads of .243 Stutzens on gun trader but I shied away from those because it seems shortening the barrels reduces mv in that calibre and had a slot for .308 when I found a bargain in a shop. I have seen a lot in 7x57 and I think that would be a great calibre but haven’t used it myself. But I assume if loads of our continental cousins bought them in that calibre it must work.
when I finally splash out on some active digital earplugs I would use the stutzen more. Maybe when I have more stalking at shorter ranges in woodland. Aas most on my shots at present are out to 200 yd over clearfell so I rarely use the stutzen with a 1.25-4x24 scope now.
im with PM regarding reloading. If you can get the result you need with shop bought why bother reloading If it isn’t recreation for you. I have a small cottage and no garage/ workshop so lack space to have it all set up.
Just gonna hang this here.....
...if it was 308 or 7x57 it’d be sold!
...if it was 308 or 7x57 it’d be sold!
Scipio
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You mean like this one? It's a mannlicher schoenauer GK in 7x57. The barrel length is 52 cms/20.5 inches.
I love this rifle, but it had a fixed 2,5 scope and finding a New one that Suits the mounts and bolt lift has not Been easy. It carries a 6x now.
If it was legal I'd prefer to use this rifle with iron sights for woodland stalking exclusively, but in Italy a rifle has to have an optic on it to be stalking legal. So in the End i might just go back to the old but functional 2.5 x. I could have saved myself a lot of trouble had i realized that from The get go, lol.
alberta boy
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^ Nice .
AB
AB
Scipio
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Thank you, AB
john_little
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Scipio
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That is pretty cool! You are changing the stock for rougher vs easier use, right?
How did you find a synthetic half length stock that fits your Stutzen length barrel if i may ask?
And aren't you worried about potential losing accuracy when changing stocks, or do you Just go to The range and reconfirm the zero after each stock change?
Really Cool idea though
john_little
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I was quite surprised at the change in point of impact when removing the stutzen forend, I checked and it shot perfectly in line vertically but at 100yds it was 6” low! It never changed POI over the years, winter or summer, other than when changing between bullet weights.That is pretty cool! You are changing the stock for rougher vs easier use, right?
How did you find a synthetic half length stock that fits your Stutzen length barrel if i may ask?
And aren't you worried about potential losing accuracy when changing stocks, or do you Just go to The range and reconfirm the zero after each stock change?
Really Cool idea though
I found the off-road stock and forend through Garlands, when it’s soaking wet I don’t have to worry
Scipio
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Yep, it's a Very nifty alternative to buying a second half stock rifle instead.I was quite surprised at the change in point of impact when removing the stutzen forend, I checked and it shot perfectly in line vertically but at 100yds it was 6” low! It never changed POI over the years, winter or summer, other than when changing between bullet weights.
I found the off-road stock and forend through Garlands, when it’s soaking wet I don’t have to worry
Of course it requires a usable stock to be gettable, but if it is then it's cool.
My mannlicher s would probably be pretty difficult to find a bad weather half stock for , for example.
However as production technology improves we might one day be able to have proper custom stocks done for even our older and rifles on demand. I'm thinking about 3d printing production forms and similar.
For Now I'll just have to be patient, and use my more rugged half stock for the rainy days and rugged terrain i guess but i quite like your solution
.Ps. Six inches over a 100 yrds is a lot! Can that all be down to Simply barrel harmonics changing? I don't know, I'm honestly asking here
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Does a stutzen stock fit on a standard 202 barrel/action?
Regard,
Gixer
john_little
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It probably will Gixer, mine has a metal forend tip that is screwed into the barrel, the barrel is factory ported which reduces barrel flip so well you don’t lose view of the target in the scope.
Heym SR20
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Yes - really like these. Prefer the longer barreled ones though. Sadly they never made them with a left handed action, although there is I believe somebody who is now making a left handed one.
WildBoarHunter
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Left handed Mannlicher Schoenauer? Are you sure?
Scipio
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I've Never heard about them, but that of course doesn't mean they do not exist.
I have heard of guy who does newly crafted spare sparts for the MS's , but I think that is all he does, not whole rifles as such.
@Heym SR20 : how is supposed to go about making these? Does he buy up old mannlicher schoenauers and convert them to left handers?
It Sounds like a quite difficult operation.
After all they stopped making the classic style mannlicher schoenauers pre the 1972 model, as it was already becoming to cost/man hour consuming for them to Craft these sorts of rifles back then.
If you'd like I can keep an eye open for you here in Italy. I've seen a couple of seemingly well conditioned MS half stocks on the market about 2 years ago.
Take care lads!
Claus
Heym SR20
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Thanks, yes I think the chap making spare parts has also made actions. With CNC milling the labour cost does go down, albeit cost of machinery is a lot higher.I've Never heard about them, but that of course doesn't mean they do not exist.
I have heard of guy who does newly crafted spare sparts for the MS's , but I think that is all he does, not whole rifles as such.
@Heym SR20 : how is supposed to go about making these? Does he buy up old mannlicher schoenauers and convert them to left handers?
It Sounds like a quite difficult operation.
After all they stopped making the classic style mannlicher schoenauers pre the 1972 model, as it was already becoming to cost/man hour consuming for them to Craft these sorts of rifles back then.
If you'd like I can keep an eye open for you here in Italy. I've seen a couple of seemingly well conditioned MS half stocks on the market about 2 years ago.
Take care lads!
Claus
There are plenty of MS still in Scotland - they were popular stalking rifles and I know were plenty of then are.
Scipio
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Alright Heym, it seems you've got this One well figured out then ;D
What i really wish someone with a cnc machine would start producing for the MS, are modern (but classic looking and stylish) , mounts for the split bridge design of the MS's that doesn't cost 500 euro to acquire and another 500 to have mounted by an expert gunsmith.
I remember a MS owner mentioning such a system already existing for Non split bridge designs, but not yet for the split bridges.
Unfortunately I can't remember the name of the person or product at current.
I do love these rifles in terms of craftsmanship, feel, look and smooth operation. They're elegant yet functional beings.
WildBoarHunter
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Looks like he makes all of the spare parts including barrels, stocks and actions - and also brand new assembled finished rifles. No mention of a left hand action though.
shop.miedler-waffen.at
Mannlicher Schönauer
Waffen, Lauf, Gehäuse, Abzüge, Verschluss, Trommelmagazin , Sicherung, Schaft, Montagen, Zubehör
Scipio
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Hey Wild boar hunter,Looks like he makes all of the spare parts including barrels, stocks and actions - and also brand new assembled finished rifles. No mention of a left hand action though.
Mannlicher Schönauer
Waffen, Lauf, Gehäuse, Abzüge, Verschluss, Trommelmagazin , Sicherung, Schaft, Montagen, Zubehör
Yep, that's the guy i was thinking about
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