bigscott270
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I like a big border Lester tup about 6 years old yum yum
You get a free set of falsers with every cut that is bought
Tastiest lamb ever
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You get a free set of falsers with every cut that is bought
I like a big border Lester tup about 6 years old yum yum
Sure it would be just fine once driven over by a tractor a few times.
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nell
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I like a big border Lester tup about 6 years old yum yum
Which part of Pakistan do you come from????
mate did a lamb spitroast on his spit.....was originally charcoal vertical charcoal heated but managed to get gas burners like in the kebab shop....convienent and all seasoned with just salt n pepper...bout 2 3/4hrs on spit and was amazing ....well lubricated with beer n red wine 
end result demolished!!
paul
end result demolished!!
paul
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berg
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love the spit roast we are going to do that with a roe for my step dads 70th Bday my fav is lamb shank or shoulder slow cooked for about 6-7 hours in 100 c then just pull it off the bone last year we brought 3 lamb orphans off bridge farm Suffolk cross scotch mule, Minty, Bottle Neck daisy .we had them in the garden for 4 week whilst we weaned them the dog love them she wined for days when we took then to the field .when we kill them the dog wouldn't eat any off the raw trimming I wonder if she new ??.we sell about 100-150 lambs a week but they are top money at the moment new season lambs are making 6,30 per kg that's wholesale price ,the price won't drop much until after June .
Monkey Spanker
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I must admit, I can't quite get my head around the price of lamb!
Pork is extremely cheap and yet the pigs require constant labour and feeding every day with manufactured food. Their skins stay on but are virtually worthless. They do have larger litters though.
Sheep spend most of their lives out in the fields or moors and eat grass which is effectivley free and require little human labour to look after surely? OK, they need shearing etc, but surely the fleece also makes money?
So why does lamb cost soooo much more than pork, and how can it be cheaper to bring them all the way from the other side of the world rather than transport them from Wales or somewhere in the UK. What are NZ farmers doing better than our own sheperds to make their lamb cost effective to transport that distance? I must be missing something here?
MS
Pork is extremely cheap and yet the pigs require constant labour and feeding every day with manufactured food. Their skins stay on but are virtually worthless. They do have larger litters though.
Sheep spend most of their lives out in the fields or moors and eat grass which is effectivley free and require little human labour to look after surely? OK, they need shearing etc, but surely the fleece also makes money?
So why does lamb cost soooo much more than pork, and how can it be cheaper to bring them all the way from the other side of the world rather than transport them from Wales or somewhere in the UK. What are NZ farmers doing better than our own sheperds to make their lamb cost effective to transport that distance? I must be missing something here?
MS
charlieg43
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I must admit, I can't quite get my head around the price of lamb!
Pork is extremely cheap and yet the pigs require constant labour and feeding every day with manufactured food. Their skins stay on but are virtually worthless. They do have larger litters though.
Sheep spend most of their lives out in the fields or moors and eat grass which is effectivley free and require little human labour to look after surely? OK, they need shearing etc, but surely the fleece also makes money?
So why does lamb cost soooo much more than pork, and how can it be cheaper to bring them all the way from the other side of the world rather than transport them from Wales or somewhere in the UK. What are NZ farmers doing better than our own sheperds to make their lamb cost effective to transport that distance? I must be missing something here?
MS
The price of lamb is primarily to do with the amount of producers and supply. Unlike pigs, which can breed all year round and it is possible to bring them onto heat artificially, most breeds of sheep are only able to be served once a year (unless you own Dorsets etc). This means at times of the year there is a large suppy of lamb meat from the uk and at other times a very small amount. They also kill out badly, (under 50% of the live animal is saleable) which means that the meat will be more expensive after it has been processed.
Also due to the fact that ours and New Zealand seasons are polar opposites, they often have an oversupply when we need lamb here. This makes it available all year round but obviously we pay a huge amount for the import of the commodity.
Pigs can breed all year round and supply is plentiful as a result. Also many EU countries produce a large quantity of pork, whereas lamb is less plentiful. They also require less space and can be fed/kept more intensively than sheep.
MS if you would care to PM me I can help explain it further, but there are a great many reasons pork is a cheaper commodity than lamb... However I may bore you to tears haha!
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Dawnraider
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Mmmm! mutton now your talking, next one that comes my way I'm going to pop one of it's back legs in a bucket of brine as advised by an old farmer friend.
Had lamb this lunchtime some we did ourself
best I've tasted in years takes some beating a nice joint
regards pete
best I've tasted in years takes some beating a nice joint
regards pete
Just had 5 lambs born to the ewes at my school, sods law most were born during the easter holidays when the kids arn't there. The tup from last year has just been "excluded" from the school as he was getting a bit much for the students to handle but he will be rejoining us for the end of year for the catering teacher and BBQ- can't wait. Whitefaced woodlands doing consevation grazing on some limstone grassland we own, so got high hopes it will taste better than suppermarket stuff.
berg
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The fleece is worth about a fiver as a raw product dependens on what china is paying ,the price of lamb has a lot to with the big supermarkets like Morrison there byer woodheads often sets the price of lamb and cattle in the live markets across the uk .and then there is export to Europe, Holland and France pay big money for are lamb is all drives the price off lamb . new season lamb has just started to come though but not in big enough numbers yet for the suppermarkets to start buy it yet so the hoggets will stay strong for a few more weeks as yet ,then when more numbers of new lambs start to come on may the supper markets will swap and then the price will shot up for about 3 weeks we may even see £7 per kg but it won't last as numbers start flooding in the market and the price cashes on the floor. never under stand why we as wholesalers cant set a price were every one makes a bit instead off this boom and bust approach .as for pigs most farmers will claim about a 15 -20 pound loss per pig ??/ if you want blow a shed load of money start framing pigs .Our UK pig farmers have decreased by up to fifty % this is a direct result of foreigen inports and the supper markets have a direct hold on Our pig farmers and with the collapse of the D.A.P the future of the pig industry in the UK has a bleak out look and if we as a country are not careful we could see the pig farmers going down the same road as the diary industry were we now import 80% if not more milk from Europe that's a real worry .I believe you can now bye nice local venison form nz at waitrose , as for new Zeland lamb there is no were near the amount we use to se coming to into the country as again thanks to the supermarkets the price got so low that you could bye a leg of lamb cheeper in a uk butcher than in new zeland witch is hard to comphrehend as its travelled half way around the wold , as we now produce a good number of lamb though out the year and there is no cheep nz lamb about now, the amount we import is relatively small. Australia is a big importer of lamb and beef to the uk
nell
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Good explanation there Charlie.We almost finished lambing 1200 ewes , luckily the weather has been kind this year, but it is still very labour intensive, anybody that thinks keeping sheep doesn't involve much work should think again, this is why the national flock is shrinking very few youngsters prepared to do the graft for small reward..
Regarding Nz lamb people forget that the grass grows all year down there so the don't have the extra expense of growing roots to finish the lambs, im sure that Nz lamb will become more expensive due to the fact that many sheep in Nz are being replaced by dairy cattle due to the demand for milk powder in China.
berg
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if you go to Waitrose its already as expensive as English ,I agree Nell Its a real worry that youngster are not seeing live stock as a future .but why would you as a 18 -30yr old young man or lady want to put 7 days a week early starts and late finish for what to loses money ,there are a few that buy in to the way of life witch is what I am sure supplements the money to a degree but with the cost of production rising quicker than the finished product how long can it last .I used to shoot a 1000 acres
over Lakenheath way and the farmer kept 500 -600 hundred fat cattle longhorns belted Galloways south devons and angus , he has now sold all the cattle and has subcontracted to bio fuel so a thousand acres of maze all for fuel a real shame .I run the meat whole sale with supporting local farmers as are moto and spend a lot off time promoting free range pork,. local lambs Nedging lamb you can look them up on line ,and special breeds of beef .
over Lakenheath way and the farmer kept 500 -600 hundred fat cattle longhorns belted Galloways south devons and angus , he has now sold all the cattle and has subcontracted to bio fuel so a thousand acres of maze all for fuel a real shame .I run the meat whole sale with supporting local farmers as are moto and spend a lot off time promoting free range pork,. local lambs Nedging lamb you can look them up on line ,and special breeds of beef .
berg
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berg
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whats that put you in at 2500 lambs or do pull out of that for breeding stock ,who do you sell to what sort off carcass clasare they rl3?
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