What butchery kit should I have as a new stalker

Thanks all,
Do I need to hang it to skin it, or can that be done on a clean flat surface too?
You'll probably want to do most of the skinning with it hanging, although it's easier if you first peel the skin off the legs and flanks with the deer lying on its back. Some sort of cradle helps keep it steady for this. A log sawing horse or a workmate bench are good improvisations.
Small deer such as roe and muntjac can be hung in an open doorway to skin. Do you have small children in your household? If so, the type of clamp that is used to hang a baby bouncer from a doorframe can equally be pressed into service to suspend a deer.
 
Hi all,
I am new to stalking, have only previously been with a friend who has all the kit.
I am looking to book up some guided stalks for myself & was wondering, what kit am I expected to have as a newbie on a paid stalk? What should I be looking to purchase in order to appropriately be able to butcher at home (apart from the skill, as looking in to that separately), & what makes kit in this realm better than others, for instance is there a gambrel thats better than another for some reason, or will any do? I don’t like to buy cheap & buy twice, but I am perfectly happy buying second hand. Where on earth am I supposed to start?
What is the correct etiquette to turn up with on the day so we can have a good stalk without considering the carcass?? Should I be taking a Roe sack for instance??
Thanks for any help
I live in a flat and butcher most my deer.

Key is preparation rather than lots of kit. Appreciate that much of what I suggest is probably not up to professional standards, but then it doesn’t require large facilities and expense. It’s aimed at someone like myself who is putting deer into their own foodchain.

Mora Knife - you can pretty much do it all with one of these. Buy two and a sharpening steel. Keep them both sharp. They are good knives for gralloching, skinning and butchering. I like two knives so you can pick a sharp one once you have blunted one.

Saw - not essential, but a basic £5 tenon saw from Screwfix works well.

Skinning - easiest time to skin is when carcass is still warm. But the skin acts as protection of the meat during transport etc. most extract carcasses with skin on as gives full protection. Game dealers only take carcasses as complete carcasses with skin on - its the law.

Transport - you need to think how you are going to get carcass out. For small deer - blue ikea bags cost £1 each, can easily be washed and fold into a pocket. You can easily carry a Roe deer quite a long way. White rubble sacks also very good for putting smaller deer, or bits of larger deer into.

I am personally not a fan of Roe Sacks as the weight is all on your shoulders rather on a proper waist belt. A decent hiking pack is much better. Better still is a frame designed for carrying heavy loads.

But as always a lot depends on your ground, your physical ability etc.

Transport home - likely the back of the car. You need a good carcass tray, box etc. that will keep everything inside. A decent flexible trugg as you can buy at any garden centre or borrow from your beloved works ver well.

If you are travelling far with a carcass, add a couple of large clippy boxes. Most garages sell ice. Fill up clippy boxes with ice and stick them around the carcass. Plastic bags of ice leak. Personally if you can let the carcass cool somewhat before transport that helps hugely. Or open the car windows and / or turn the aircon on.

Kitchen table / sideboard and a couple of chopping boards.

Negotiating skills to use the above. I find that it is much much easier to have skinned the carcass, removing bottom legs, head and all the other bits whilst still out in the field. Key is to split open the chest and let all the blood drain out. Blood and hair cause the biggest objections.

A decent tray or two to put larger joints into the fridge to cool.

Large freezer bags abd freezer paper to put joints into for long term storage.

Hanging - meat does improve somewhat by hanging. If its cold you can hang a carcass in a shed / garage etc. in warmer weather you can age the main joints in the fridge for a day or two. But you won’t notice if you put the meat straight into the freezer. However take the meat from the freezer and let it defrost well and dry out a wee bit before cooking.

Scott Rae videos - he pretty much shows you how to do it.

Bones and sinews - I tend to keep my meat on the bone. I think it cooks much much better, especially if you are making stews, casseroles, curries, gravies etc. The bones and sinews produce an unctuous jelly / syrupy like consistency and lots of flavour.

Personally I am not a fan of mince.
 
I live in a flat and butcher most my deer.

Key is preparation rather than lots of kit. Appreciate that much of what I suggest is probably not up to professional standards, but then it doesn’t require large facilities and expense. It’s aimed at someone like myself who is putting deer into their own foodchain.

Mora Knife - you can pretty much do it all with one of these. Buy two and a sharpening steel. Keep them both sharp. They are good knives for gralloching, skinning and butchering. I like two knives so you can pick a sharp one once you have blunted one.

Saw - not essential, but a basic £5 tenon saw from Screwfix works well.

Skinning - easiest time to skin is when carcass is still warm. But the skin acts as protection of the meat during transport etc. most extract carcasses with skin on as gives full protection. Game dealers only take carcasses as complete carcasses with skin on - its the law.

Transport - you need to think how you are going to get carcass out. For small deer - blue ikea bags cost £1 each, can easily be washed and fold into a pocket. You can easily carry a Roe deer quite a long way. White rubble sacks also very good for putting smaller deer, or bits of larger deer into.

I am personally not a fan of Roe Sacks as the weight is all on your shoulders rather on a proper waist belt. A decent hiking pack is much better. Better still is a frame designed for carrying heavy loads.

But as always a lot depends on your ground, your physical ability etc.

Transport home - likely the back of the car. You need a good carcass tray, box etc. that will keep everything inside. A decent flexible trugg as you can buy at any garden centre or borrow from your beloved works ver well.

If you are travelling far with a carcass, add a couple of large clippy boxes. Most garages sell ice. Fill up clippy boxes with ice and stick them around the carcass. Plastic bags of ice leak. Personally if you can let the carcass cool somewhat before transport that helps hugely. Or open the car windows and / or turn the aircon on.

Kitchen table / sideboard and a couple of chopping boards.

Negotiating skills to use the above. I find that it is much much easier to have skinned the carcass, removing bottom legs, head and all the other bits whilst still out in the field. Key is to split open the chest and let all the blood drain out. Blood and hair cause the biggest objections.

A decent tray or two to put larger joints into the fridge to cool.

Large freezer bags abd freezer paper to put joints into for long term storage.

Hanging - meat does improve somewhat by hanging. If its cold you can hang a carcass in a shed / garage etc. in warmer weather you can age the main joints in the fridge for a day or two. But you won’t notice if you put the meat straight into the freezer. However take the meat from the freezer and let it defrost well and dry out a wee bit before cooking.

Scott Rae videos - he pretty much shows you how to do it.

Bones and sinews - I tend to keep my meat on the bone. I think it cooks much much better, especially if you are making stews, casseroles, curries, gravies etc. The bones and sinews produce an unctuous jelly / syrupy like consistency and lots of flavour.

Personally I am not a fan of mince.
Loads of detail. Thanks you
 
One thing I would suggest is to buy a good proper chopping block and a wipe down washable table cloth.

Another thing I found handy at the beginning were two ladders and a piece or scaffold pole to hang the carcass on. When I don’t have a garage just put them up in the kitchen.

Unless you’re set up for it anything over roe size or small fallow is a ball ache to skin horizontally unless hung imo.
 
In the past I have skinned deer off my door chin up bar and a fence post
Both times using a noose around the (pre skinned) leg and no S hooks or gambrel and it was completely fine if a bit sketchy
 
Her ladyship bought me an Outdoor Edge butchery set many years ago - not something you would carry about the hill but why would you butcher a deer on the hill anyway? It has more bits than you will ever need and the blades take and hold an edge well - all at not a huge amount of money.
As a suggestion - an oyster shucking knife with it’s short blunt blade makes a great skinning tool and causes minimal flesh damage.
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One thing I would suggest is to buy a good proper chopping block and a wipe down washable table cloth.

Another thing I found handy at the beginning were two ladders and a piece or scaffold pole to hang the carcass on. When I don’t have a garage just put them up in the kitchen.

Unless you’re set up for it anything over roe size or small fallow is a ball ache to skin horizontally unless hung imo.
I skin everything whilst it’s hanging. I also don’t use a gambrel as I don’t like the carcass spinning or twisting whilst I am working on it, so I have a rail set up with 10” S hooks which go onto that and the deer either go directly onto the hooks (fallow or toe) or I use 2 pieces of para cord which are tied off as 6” loops which I attach via larksfoot through the bone/tendon on the hock and that then go onto the S hooks - that puts the deer at the right height for me.

As the carcass can’t turn I then find it easier to break down into primals whilst hanging, so I end up with a bag of bits, and 2 loins/shoulders/haunches which I then do the fine butchery on in the house.

This keeps all of the messy stuff in the stable / skinning emporium and means that I stay on the wife’s good side!!
 
If you plan on shooting lots for home consumption a larder fridge is really handy. Once home it gives the flexibility to hang the carcass for a few days and then process when you have time. Picked mine up locally for £60 or something and then put in a piece of threaded bar to act as a hanging fixture and a usb fan. A hook and gambrel hung somewhere also make skinning easier - you can break down the carcass whilst it’s hanging too.
 
Don’t overthink it. Something to skin from and something sharp. Will add a saw at some point. Since moving to the UK, I don’t have much set up, but I don’t let that stop me from getting out and stalking a bit. Obviously for home consumption only.😂
 

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It’s very rare here for people to strip the carcass on site - we almost always extract whole.

I occasionally do it, but usually only if it’s badly shot animal so not worth taking out the whole carcass.
It's also a nice method for people who might live in apartments and don't want to incur any domestic pressure! I think those over the pond call it "primals"
 
Lots of good advice here. Don’t need too much but as a tyro you may wish to invest in a butcher’s glove, so that the non cutting hand remains a non cut hand. 😁
 
You will be fine with a decent kitchen knife and a load of freezer bags to start with
Then you can decide and get stuff as you go

Mincer would come pretty high up my list - second hand off gumtree etc

I don't use a hacksaw from b&q (fresh blade obvs) just to neaten up the shanks otherwise don't use a saw

Cut proof gloves
Vac packer
Boning knife

All useful but not essential
 
Thanks for all the tips & advice. I will have a go after next successful stalk & update post with some pics. Cheers
 
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