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Hi all Im a newbie on here so please bare with me, my question is has anyone with a working Teckel had any problems or knows anyone who has had problems with IVDD.
We recently lost our standard wire haired Dachs to this and are thinking perhaps to have a working Teckel in the new year as they seem to be less prone to this problem.
Although Fred was a pet and not a working dog that didn't stop him from chasing hare or smelling out dear he also had a character far larger than his size and was well known in the village.
We were completely gutted to lose him at nearly 4 years old.
So please what are your thoughts on having a Teckel for a pet.
 
Yup, sweet loveable creatures that can be absolute sods! Our is now turning 3 and has almost finally stopped having excitement pee's in the house - his balls didn't descend so at a year they were removed and I wonder if this might be a consequence. It also means his coat has irrevocably changed from wire to fluffy.

Was out with me shooting and ran in after the shot on a roe doe yesterday morning despite dragging 10m of tracking line behind him, and back out today shoot feeding in storm BERT. @Ratel summed it well - fearless and 110% whilst out working and this afternoon, curled up (lucky bastard) on my wife's bosom whilst we watched the F1. We only got him after having had 8 Vizslas - whilst we love those too, it's not the same and his character/engagement make him VERY special.

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@Keith Edmunds knows a thing or two about bloodlines, he was able to give me some very useful info on the pedigree of a pup I was considering (and now own...)

Mine has some working and some non-working blood and, as yet, has actually been very easy to train and live with (she's coming up to 9 months). I think it's partly her slightly "diluted" breeding and partly that she's quite a timid and soft-natured pup anyway.

She's out second, the first I got when he was 2. We won't ever be without one now.
 
Series 2 said:
Hi all Im a newbie on here so please bare with me, my question is has anyone with a working Teckel had any problems or knows anyone who has had problems with IVDD.
We recently lost our standard wire haired Dachs to this and are thinking perhaps to have a working Teckel in the new year as they seem to be less prone to this problem.
Although Fred was a pet and not a working dog that didn't stop him from chasing hare or smelling out dear he also had a character far larger than his size and was well known in the village.
We were completely gutted to lose him at nearly 4 years old.
So please what are your thoughts on having a Teckel for a pet.
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Beware, there are breeders of working teckels that state that these lines do not suffer from spinal problems. That simply isn't true. There is still a lot to learn about IVDD and back problems in general. It would seem logical that the less exaggerated a dachshund is - shorter back and longer legs - the less prone it would be to having a back problem and that might hold some water. There is also a school of thought that it isn't the length of back that is the risk but the length of loin. The logic here is...the longer the ribcage and shorter the loin - the better. Again that seems logical but isn't scientifically proven.

Lifestyle is a big factor. The stronger and fitter the better however......a dachshund with an active (or working) lifestyle might be at more risk simply because of the physical tasks it performs. Wrap one up in cotton wool and it might never have a back problem - allow it to leap from this and that and tumble down steep banks and, despite being fit, it could hurt itself.

Regarding working teckels being good pets again, I would be cautious, some lines are very driven, very tenacious and have a nose that would put most foxhounds to shame...........not necessarily ideal for a 'pet'.

Take a look at Sunsong Dachshunds, if I wanted a pet, that's where I would go.

PS.... A teckel is a dachshund and a dachshund a teckel. The difference is between working lines or show lines......They are all Teckels/Dackels/Dachshunds/Bassotto
 
When we first had Giz we took him to the vets to get checked out as he was 8 months with a show breeder. We asked about back problems and that we were aiming to get him up to running with the spaniels. She said yes they can have back issues but if you get them fit and good muscle the problems are less. The problem ones she sees are house dogs that are overweight and not exercised sufficiently and then they can become agressive as well.
 
Keith Edmunds said:
Beware, there are breeders of working teckels that state that these lines do not suffer from spinal problems. That simply isn't true. There is still a lot to learn about IVDD and back problems in general. It would seem logical that the less exaggerated a dachshund is - shorter back and longer legs - the less prone it would be to having a back problem and that might hold some water. There is also a school of thought that it isn't the length of back that is the risk but the length of loin. The logic here is...the longer the ribcage and shorter the loin - the better. Again that seems logical but isn't scientifically proven.

Lifestyle is a big factor. The stronger and fitter the better however......a dachshund with an active (or working) lifestyle might be at more risk simply because of the physical tasks it performs. Wrap one up in cotton wool and it might never have a back problem - allow it to leap from this and that and tumble down steep banks and, despite being fit, it could hurt itself.

Regarding working teckels being good pets again, I would be cautious, some lines are very driven, very tenacious and have a nose that would put most foxhounds to shame...........not necessarily ideal for a 'pet'.

Take a look at Sunsong Dachshunds, if I wanted a pet, that's where I would go.

PS.... A teckel is a dachshund and a dachshund a teckel. The difference is between working lines or show lines......They are all Teckels/Dackels/Dachshunds/Bassotto
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Hi Keith thanks for the info on working Teckel's and will take a look at Sunsong in the new year.Fred was defo not a cotton wool dog and was into everything possible and intelligent the wife learnt him to ring a cow bell on the back door to go out to do his wee etc (she tried it with me but I just couldn't get it)we live in a rural location with hare and deer in the fields so Fred enjoyed himself.
The worrying thing is that they say that 25% of them may succumb to IVDD between the age of 2 and 4 years hence my post to see if working dogs suffered the same as show dogs.my thinking was that perhaps working dogs especially with purer bloodlines maybe from abroad wouldn't suffer the same.
Cheers David
 
Series 2 said:
Hi Keith thanks for the info on working Teckel's and will take a look at Sunsong in the new year.Fred was defo not a cotton wool dog and was into everything possible and intelligent the wife learnt him to ring a cow bell on the back door to go out to do his wee etc (she tried it with me but I just couldn't get it)we live in a rural location with hare and deer in the fields so Fred enjoyed himself.
The worrying thing is that they say that 25% of them may succumb to IVDD between the age of 2 and 4 years hence my post to see if working dogs suffered the same as show dogs.my thinking was that perhaps working dogs especially with purer bloodlines maybe from abroad wouldn't suffer the same.
Cheers David
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Sunsong are doing a nice work/show blend with Scandinavian working blood and good quality show blood. We bred 8 litters - 4 of which were 100% working and 4 work/show blend. We've kept a work/show blend back from our 7th litter and I am delighted with her. We've stopped breeding now but if we had continued we would go with work/show blood to get the balance that 'we' feel is right for the UK working/stalking scene.
 
Keith Edmunds said:
Sunsong are doing a nice work/show blend with Scandinavian working blood and good quality show blood. We bred 8 litters - 4 of which were 100% working and 4 work/show blend. We've kept a work/show blend back from our 7th litter and I am delighted with her. We've stopped breeding now but if we had continued we would go with work/show blood to get the balance that 'we' feel is right for the UK working/stalking scene.
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Hi Keith Thanks again, we will defo get in touch with Sunsong in the new year and also PM you if thats OK to see if you know of any litters you could recommend. As I say we wont be looking for a pup untill the new year this is because 1. its to soon after Freds passing and 2, the wife is going in for an op shortly so not a good time to have a pup around.
 

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Series 2 said:
Hi Keith Thanks again, we will defo get in touch with Sunsong in the new year and also PM you if thats OK to see if you know of any litters you could recommend. As I say we wont be looking for a pup untill the new year this is because 1. its to soon after Freds passing and 2, the wife is going in for an op shortly so not a good time to have a pup around.
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Lovely looking chap
 

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