The RSPCA again...................surely beyond the remit of a charity?
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That's good news mate.Got to say I'm quite shocked that someone in parliment is rocking the boat!
ths84
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Emailed my local MP (David Davies) and will await a response.
Thank you for the rough guide to the email Perdix!
edit: FYI Forces involved
The 10 forces which have signed information sharing agreements with the RSPCA are: Cambridgeshire, Norfolk, Kent, Hertfordshire, Nottinghamshire, Bedfordshire, Lincolnshire, Cumbria, North Wales and South Wales.
Thank you for the rough guide to the email Perdix!
edit: FYI Forces involved
The 10 forces which have signed information sharing agreements with the RSPCA are: Cambridgeshire, Norfolk, Kent, Hertfordshire, Nottinghamshire, Bedfordshire, Lincolnshire, Cumbria, North Wales and South Wales.
multiman
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My MP used to be Chief Executive of the Countryside Alliance 2003 -2010! and is pro hunting
Myster Fied
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Got to love that
i've found that they are great at closing down fox traps or asking if i'm sure that what i am doing is legal 
but they are happy to drive past plenty of paddocks (fields) that have little or no grazing overcrowded with hungry horses some with injuries (pikies dont call vets) and turn a blind eye.CWMMAN3738
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As south Wales & GWENT are merging FLD I wonder if that then means GWENT are too or are the other forces just not admitting to it?
I sent this (which is an adapted draft off SD thread) by email to my MP. Had an initial response to say that he is looking into it & will get back to me.
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Dear ....
My attention has been drawn to an article published by the Countryside Alliance which raises some concerns regarding the privacy and security of firearms/shotgun certificate holders (the link to the article is here http://www.countryside-alliance.org/ca/campaigns-hunting/the-rspca-and-the-police )
As I have already passed the necessary clearance to be granted both shotgun and firearm certificates by my local constabulary, I fail to see the purpose giving my personal details to the RSPCA who are are an animal welfare charity and not a law enforcement agency.
I also have fears that such information will, at some stage, be leaked to those amongst the less law abiding animal rights movements, so making myself, my vehicle and even my home and family potential targets for threats and attacks.
I am very concerned about this matter and I feel that the RSPCA are not acting within the boundaries of a charitable organisation and, with their recent vast spend on prosecutions, are becoming ever more a political movement.
As such I feel that the Charities Commission should look into their activities.
I would therefore be grateful if you could look into this matter with the utmost urgency and I look forward to hearing from you.
Many thanks & kind regards.
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That's a better letter/e-mail Eyefor
You deserve the credit.
Not I.
It's 99% your wording?
basil
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Also added to a similar thread.
For those interested, this came from the Cumbria force area (and presumably other forces) and is what the RSPCA has access to ..
For those interested, this came from the Cumbria force area (and presumably other forces) and is what the RSPCA has access to ..
- Vehicles connected to a suspect or prospective offender;
- Information held on the National Firearms Licensing Management System;
- Details of anyone convicted, charged or cautioned; or anyone fined for disorder or subject to ASBOs, curfews, banning or exclusion orders;
- Terms of probation or bail conditions;
- Details on methods an individual has used to commit offences against animals in the past;
- Information which may indicate someone’s “willingness” to inflict harm on an animal;
- Any past recorded behavioural or medical issues;
- Intelligence concerning someone actively involved in, or intending to commit any animal-related offences.
vincy
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+1 I have writers block at the moment
same here
deeangeo
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Excellent Perdix. This is just the sort of thing that 'slides by un-noticed' & should be stopped forthwith. I firmly agree that police data should be shared with intelligence agencies, but charities are a different matter altogether.
It seems Chief Constables of Police exceed their powers and assume responsibility in a number of ways they ought not to. One would hope the newly appointed Commissioners should be asserting their influence in preventing such occurrences when these things are brought to their attention. ATB
It seems Chief Constables of Police exceed their powers and assume responsibility in a number of ways they ought not to. One would hope the newly appointed Commissioners should be asserting their influence in preventing such occurrences when these things are brought to their attention. ATB
Very interesting comment at "The Times" online article about The Archbishop of Canterbury declining to take a role with the RSPCA (see the different SD thread )
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......should note the attached extract from the RSPCA Annual Report and Accounts.
"The Pension Fund was subject to a triennial valuation as at 31 March 2012. This reported the Fund deficit as £52.4m. The Trustees of the Pension Fund are finalising a recovery plan to address the deficit. A previous plan, approved following the 2009 valuation, resulted in the RSPCA making enhanced annual payments of £2.4m into the Fund to address the deficit of £23.0m reported at that time."
The deficit in the pension fund represents the amount by which staff have been awarded lavish pension rights without any money to pay for them.
To put this in context, the RSPCA's annual income, after deducting the costs of fund-raising, is about £100 million.
So the pension fund deficit is equal to half of its annual income.
At some point, the RSPCA has to re-pay that deficit or be declared insolvent. One might therefore say that one of its financial objectives, if not indeed its main one, is to raise £50 million to pay for the staff pensions that have already been promised.
I wouldn't give them a penny; and I think that the elderly ladies who leave the RSPCA money in their wills should be expressly warned that their money may well be used to reduce the pension fund deficit.
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......should note the attached extract from the RSPCA Annual Report and Accounts.
"The Pension Fund was subject to a triennial valuation as at 31 March 2012. This reported the Fund deficit as £52.4m. The Trustees of the Pension Fund are finalising a recovery plan to address the deficit. A previous plan, approved following the 2009 valuation, resulted in the RSPCA making enhanced annual payments of £2.4m into the Fund to address the deficit of £23.0m reported at that time."
The deficit in the pension fund represents the amount by which staff have been awarded lavish pension rights without any money to pay for them.
To put this in context, the RSPCA's annual income, after deducting the costs of fund-raising, is about £100 million.
So the pension fund deficit is equal to half of its annual income.
At some point, the RSPCA has to re-pay that deficit or be declared insolvent. One might therefore say that one of its financial objectives, if not indeed its main one, is to raise £50 million to pay for the staff pensions that have already been promised.
I wouldn't give them a penny; and I think that the elderly ladies who leave the RSPCA money in their wills should be expressly warned that their money may well be used to reduce the pension fund deficit.
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