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- Thread starter Beowulf
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I`m really glad for you Beowulf, BUT, I have to clarify something without being a damp squib. Here we go. last week i contacted a friend of mine down in norfolk near to where my bit is, to ask him what the score was with stalking down in that area at the moment, anyway as it happened he was away for the week so i went onto the defra website like all the rest of us and checked out the area. On the defra map it didn`t give any indication that there were any restrictions, but on reading the bumf it said about not moving any carcasses of the ground blah blah blah, so decided not to bother.
Today this pal of mine returned my call and after a bit of chat about a poaching problem, he told me that there was "Categorically" NO movement of deer carcasses, in England, over a public highway. Now he also stated that HIS friend had had it clarified by 2 different defra personnel over 2 different phonecalls, as well as this he also stated that the police are taking it very seriously anybody found shooting deer with the intention of moving it of the ground. Like I say, I would hate to come over as telling you what to do and to knock your excitement as i know we are all well confused as to what we can or cannot do. Anyway, just my thoughts. wadashot.
Today this pal of mine returned my call and after a bit of chat about a poaching problem, he told me that there was "Categorically" NO movement of deer carcasses, in England, over a public highway. Now he also stated that HIS friend had had it clarified by 2 different defra personnel over 2 different phonecalls, as well as this he also stated that the police are taking it very seriously anybody found shooting deer with the intention of moving it of the ground. Like I say, I would hate to come over as telling you what to do and to knock your excitement as i know we are all well confused as to what we can or cannot do. Anyway, just my thoughts. wadashot.
MarkH
Well-Known Member
Hi Guys
After a lot of nebulous Defra garble I think its Ok to venture out to the high seat again.
Here's the latest.
Deer for human consumption
In the Restricted Zone
Treated and untreated carcases of wild deer killed for human consumption can be moved off the premises of origin for movement to the game larder and/or a Game Handling Establishment (GHE) and from any premises through the usual wholesale/retail premises as necessary to the end consumer. They may not be exported. Farmed deer can be sent to approved slaughterhouses. ?????????????????????????????????
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Mark
After a lot of nebulous Defra garble I think its Ok to venture out to the high seat again.
Here's the latest.
Deer for human consumption
In the Restricted Zone
Treated and untreated carcases of wild deer killed for human consumption can be moved off the premises of origin for movement to the game larder and/or a Game Handling Establishment (GHE) and from any premises through the usual wholesale/retail premises as necessary to the end consumer. They may not be exported. Farmed deer can be sent to approved slaughterhouses. ?????????????????????????????????
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This very morning I have managed another first! My first Muntjac Buck. 
A pretty good 30lbs gralloched. I thought it was the farms Labrador at first sight! 
The farmer also gave me two ferking great parsnips and a bag full of Jersusalem Articokes. All I need now is a half decent red wine and I'm away!
The monster is in the Trophy Room if your interested.
A pretty good 30lbs gralloched. I thought it was the farms Labrador at first sight! The farmer also gave me two ferking great parsnips and a bag full of Jersusalem Articokes. All I need now is a half decent red wine and I'm away! The monster is in the Trophy Room if your interested.
sikamalc
Administrator
Congratulations Mr B. That looks like a nice Munty, possible bronze? hope it the first of many for you, hopefully it will eat better than the Tutankhmuns flip flop you shot the other week?
Looks like snow on the way for the top of Scotland, if it really sets in before you come up, make sure you bring a an old white sheet or boiler suit to wear over your gear.
Looks like snow on the way for the top of Scotland, if it really sets in before you come up, make sure you bring a an old white sheet or boiler suit to wear over your gear.
Thanks Mony,
I have been struggling to get any where near the Muntjac with out disturbing them. Too much foliage still and no way of taking a clear shot!
I had noticed that one deer track in particular always had deer moving along it at any time of the day. Getting in to position and getting a deer would take alot of effort and patience. The meadows were out of the question, the wind was all over the place. I had only one option left, the deer path. Unfortunately I spooked a Doe and she barked for all her life! I pretended to walk out of the wood, as if to cut off her retreat. She got out of the way sharpish. That left me free to take up position under a large Ash tree 90 metres from the deer path as it went across a ride. Within 15 minutes I saw something move 200 metres off to my right, it looked to be too tall for a munty. As it got closer I was convinced it was the farmers dog. I just had time to shoulder the rifle and get ready for the shot. If it was a dog well I'd just call it all the names under the sun and go home. If it was a Muntjac well then I'd out smarted the little sod. Instead of a Doe a Buck walked out on to the ride. He looked neither left or right, he just sauntered across. Bang! I saw him pitch forward and come to a stop. I new he was dead so walked up to have a closer look at him. The life was just leaving his eyes as I stooped over him. It saddened me as it always does. "Thank you for your sacrifice" I said to him as I lay my hand on his neck. I carried out the 'Last bite' and sat drinking coffee from my flask, looking at my beautiful buck for a long time. I felt so tired as the adrenaline ebbed away and I could feel the cold again. Yes it was very special.
I have been struggling to get any where near the Muntjac with out disturbing them. Too much foliage still and no way of taking a clear shot!
I had noticed that one deer track in particular always had deer moving along it at any time of the day. Getting in to position and getting a deer would take alot of effort and patience. The meadows were out of the question, the wind was all over the place. I had only one option left, the deer path. Unfortunately I spooked a Doe and she barked for all her life! I pretended to walk out of the wood, as if to cut off her retreat. She got out of the way sharpish. That left me free to take up position under a large Ash tree 90 metres from the deer path as it went across a ride. Within 15 minutes I saw something move 200 metres off to my right, it looked to be too tall for a munty. As it got closer I was convinced it was the farmers dog. I just had time to shoulder the rifle and get ready for the shot. If it was a dog well I'd just call it all the names under the sun and go home. If it was a Muntjac well then I'd out smarted the little sod. Instead of a Doe a Buck walked out on to the ride. He looked neither left or right, he just sauntered across. Bang! I saw him pitch forward and come to a stop. I new he was dead so walked up to have a closer look at him. The life was just leaving his eyes as I stooped over him. It saddened me as it always does. "Thank you for your sacrifice" I said to him as I lay my hand on his neck. I carried out the 'Last bite' and sat drinking coffee from my flask, looking at my beautiful buck for a long time. I felt so tired as the adrenaline ebbed away and I could feel the cold again. Yes it was very special.
Wow, you should become a writer. That was fantastic, took me back to the first hind i shot. Sitting, looking and not quite believing that I had taken such a lovely creature's life. Then after a while, SNAP, back to reality and remembering the reason. Long may that feeling stay, and return with every beastie shot.
Funny you should say that Duncs. I'm not that impressed with some of the writers in the Stalking/hunting magazines. I keep saying its something I'd like a go at. I like the respectful way that many of the old fellows used to write. Men like Jack Hargreaves and Ronnie Rose, gentlemen writing about deer and the countryside with great reverance.
I think that I'll write about my trip up to Scotland at the end of the month. I think it will be of some value to other stalkers like myself who have not ventured up North yet.
P.S. Your brief account also got my imagination going. I've said it before and I'll say it again. We need articles and stories written by the site members! There is a wealth of knowledge and passion on this site. I bet JayB fore instance, has a few stories to tell.
I think that I'll write about my trip up to Scotland at the end of the month. I think it will be of some value to other stalkers like myself who have not ventured up North yet.
P.S. Your brief account also got my imagination going. I've said it before and I'll say it again. We need articles and stories written by the site members! There is a wealth of knowledge and passion on this site. I bet JayB fore instance, has a few stories to tell.
devilishdave
Well-Known Member
Muntjack
No Suffolk way
Beowulf said:
No Suffolk way
monynut
Well-Known Member
Beowulf said:I think that I'll write about my trip up to Scotland at the end of the month. I think it will be of some value to other stalkers like myself who have not ventured up North yet.
Beowulf
l took my first deer in Scotland as did the other half so it is a place that is very dear to me, l return there as often as l can, the stalking is now only a part of any trip, to meet up with some very good friends and enjoy the crack is just as important if not more.
Good luck on your trip north l and many others look forward in reading about it, Scotland is a place that will grab you by the whatsits and you will be back many times.
l am told the whiskey's quite good also
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