Tick/Flea treatment
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Frontline and Frontline+ stopped working on fleas on my springers here a two or three years ago. I have been alternating between Advocate drops between the shoulder blades and Nexgard tablets which seems to be working like Frontline used to.
We go walking in Arran late May early June when they pick up loads of ticks...with Nexgard the ticks die before they engorge and I have not found a wriggling or engorged one which I used to with Frontline.
Big advantage of the Nexgard tablets is that they can be used in the winter beating season when the dogs just don't get a 48 hour dry period for the Frontline drops to establish and become water resistant.
Alan
We go walking in Arran late May early June when they pick up loads of ticks...with Nexgard the ticks die before they engorge and I have not found a wriggling or engorged one which I used to with Frontline.
Big advantage of the Nexgard tablets is that they can be used in the winter beating season when the dogs just don't get a 48 hour dry period for the Frontline drops to establish and become water resistant.
Alan
shakey jake
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I wouldnt bother with frontline i spray houses for fleas most weeks and the people have nearly always been treating with frontline. It was brilliant on fleas and probably still is on ticks but resistance is common now and other products are more reliable
Shakey
Shakey
Bravecto is another oral treatment - works well, kills ticks. No fleas to be seen either. Works ok for the full three months it's supposed to.
Ian
Ian
If resistance to Frontline could be demonstrated, all the other drug companies who make rival products would sing it from the rooftops. They can’t because there is no evidence. Flea numbers have increased in recent years for a number of reasons, climate included. Most failures are down to a build up of other lifecycle stages in the dog’s home environment.
That is basically what my Vet said.
But.
I used Frontline Plus for 10 years and it was fine...then the last two treatments the fleas just did not clear from the dogs.
The vet said Frontline is not clinically proven to be ineffective and that the dogs were just being reinfected from the fleas in the environment.
But within a couple of days of using Advocate for the first time, I could find no fleas on the dogs. I have not found any for the two or three years since with Advocate and Nexgard.
It was demonstrated to me by direct observation...so that is my evidence. What would I, or more importantly my dog, gain from continuing to use Frontline until somebody funds the clinical research to prove it was no longer effective officially?
Nexgard is a product of Merial, the Frontline maker...one could draw a number of conclusions from that.
Alan
John Gryphon
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I`m using SIMPARICA for the dogs here for fleas/mites etc (no ticks here) as it also gets into mange control. Red foxes vector mange readily in Aus and anywhere there is a fox my dogs will stick their heads in.
Prior to that I have used Cydectin cattle pour on...NOT for collie dogs though as it is not good for the breed.
Prior to that I have used Cydectin cattle pour on...NOT for collie dogs though as it is not good for the breed.
Turkish
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Another happy BRAVECTO customer.
Advantages:
One oral dose every three months.
No fleas !
Ticks attach and then die. Always found dead and dried up, never engorged.
No side effects that I have seen.
I live in Norfolk and use my dogs all the time. The forest around here is alive with ticks. When I first came to the area I used advantix and frontline plus. The dogs were soon seen to be carrying ticks regularly, so a change was made.
I believe in this product and would recommend it to anyone who has a concern with ticks .
Advantages:
One oral dose every three months.
No fleas !
Ticks attach and then die. Always found dead and dried up, never engorged.
No side effects that I have seen.
I live in Norfolk and use my dogs all the time. The forest around here is alive with ticks. When I first came to the area I used advantix and frontline plus. The dogs were soon seen to be carrying ticks regularly, so a change was made.
I believe in this product and would recommend it to anyone who has a concern with ticks .
It's an odd one with fipronil (the active in Frontline). Used directly on fleas it works and I'm not aware of absolute data showing true resistance. Regardless, I don't recommend it any more and have moved to bravest or nexguard. advantage, advantix and stronghold all good. BUT, discuss it with your vet practice first. They'll know the local situation and what product is best for you and your cat/dog etc.
slightly off topic but if we can effectively treat our dogs with oral or spot om type products why can't we do the same for ourselves? If these type of products are deemed safe enough for our canine companions and millions of farm animals that go into the food chain they surely they should be safe enough for humans?
Humans complain of headaches, muscle pain, V&D, loss of libidio, excess libido, baldness, hair growth...... Also none of this lot are licensed for farm animals - way to expensive. Although, given the difficulty of treating sheep scab (no showers please farming folk) I'm hoping one may well get licensed.
It's a fair question though and if our hygiene was poorer, we may well need such products. Ivermectin is used for some worm infestations - river blindness I think.
It's a fair question though and if our hygiene was poorer, we may well need such products. Ivermectin is used for some worm infestations - river blindness I think.
Cseskynut
Active Member
The problem rarely admitted is they are not actually safe, or tested for long term use
see article in NGO keeping the balance out today
Can you share that article please? There's a lot of internet waffle about medicines in general, so I'd be interested in the facts the article is based on.
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