Tow bar deer carrier

[8x57]

Hence one of the reasons why it could fall foul of the construction and use regulations. I think that most cars have a limit of around 50 Kg maximum down force on the ball hitch, but I am sure there are others much better informed that me on this site that will be able to correct me on that one.

 

[Bavarianbrit]

The German version is very good but is only held by a lever clamp onto the 50mm ball and it is not advised by the maker for anything other than short slow journeys ie from point of shot to the larder at low speeds due to the upwards forces generated on the unit by road travel.
Martin

I found the link.
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=2864053
Martin

 

[Bavarianbrit]

I just saw that the german hunting magazine "Deutsche Jagd Journal" is selling the carrier galvanised & complete with the ball gripper "nice word" for 135 Euros.
Martin

 

[merlin]

I just saw that the german hunting magazine "Deutsche Jagd Journal" is selling the carrier galvanised & complete with the ball gripper "nice word" for 135 Euros.
Martin

Presumably she's some strapping Munich lass that is supplied to assist with getting the galvanised carrier into place????

 

[david dumpleton]

yes from richard dunham stalkers uk 01442843408

 

[ruby tuesday]

I made my own for fallow in my jimny ok for does but a big buck makes the steering lighter has the added benefit that the exhaust gives it a nice smoked smell.

 

[8x57]

You need to be cautious using such racks on the highway or even for that matter off public roads. The lightened steering could be an indication that you have exceeded the ball hitch load for the vehicle. As discussed earlier in this reserected thread of 18 months ago you need to be wary of this if using the vehicle on the highway for fear of falling foul of the Vehicle Construction and Use Regulations. Heaven forbid you were stopped on the highway by a switched on traffic officer or the vehicle was inspected following an RTC and the load was seen to have affected the steering of the vehicle. On top of that your insurance company could also use it as an excuse to void your insurance cover.

 

[Sinistral]

Anybody know where I can buy one of the above, and are they any good-my back is getting too old to keep throwing Fallow in the back of the truck !
Thanks for any help.

I've got one of these detachable two arm jobs which will take 2 or 3 carcasses wedged between tailgate/bumper and the vertical arms of the carrier. Used to use it when I had a Disco.

The base bolts to the towball (3 bolts), and has two short upright pins. When you need it, the two tubular arms of the V clip together halfway up with a spring clip. You drop the arms onto the towball plate pins. Then you can stack one carcass on top of t'other lashed/secured by bungy cords. It's best to put a tarpaulin over when you've done, rather than alarm the populace. Weight loading should be >100Kg I'm sure, as I've had 4 bikes on the arms.

To give you the idea, here's a link to something similar in lightweight form.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mont-Blanc-..._1_20?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1360928194&sr=1-20

Would this do the job?

 

[keith@honda]

jms arms advertise a tow ball carrier, try them

 

[stalker.308]

You need to be cautious using such racks on the highway or even for that matter off public roads. The lightened steering could be an indication that you have exceeded the ball hitch load for the vehicle. As discussed earlier in this reserected thread of 18 months ago you need to be wary of this if using the vehicle on the highway for fear of falling foul of the Vehicle Construction and Use Regulations. Heaven forbid you were stopped on the highway by a switched on traffic officer or the vehicle was inspected following an RTC and the load was seen to have affected the steering of the vehicle. On top of that your insurance company could also use it as an excuse to void your insurance cover.

Not so, the only thing you have to be wary of is exceeding your nose weight, which is printed in a plate on your tow ball. The same restrictions apply to towing a caravan, so unless you are suggesting towing a caravan is illegal then you are wrong. A caravan can put you breach of nose wieght laws if not loaded correctly as can an overloaded tow bar mounted carrier but to say they are illegal by their very nature is wrong.

 

[prometheus]

Do you mean overloaded like this ?

 

[8x57]

Not so, the only thing you have to be wary of is exceeding your nose weight, which is printed in a plate on your tow ball. The same restrictions apply to towing a caravan, so unless you are suggesting towing a caravan is illegal then you are wrong. A caravan can put you breach of nose wieght laws if not loaded correctly as can an overloaded tow bar mounted carrier but to say they are illegal by their very nature is wrong.

Any vehicle examiners on the site will be able to supply a much better answer but my understanding is that all vehicles (LGV's slightly different) will have a recommended or design limitation nose weight. A typical weigh will be between 50kg and 75kg for a car. That is the maximum amount of downforce that should be applied to the ball hitch or the dynamics of the vehicle can be adversely affected. As you say when towing a caravan the loading of the caravan should be such that the recommended nose weight is not exceeded hence the use of scales by some people to balance the caravan by moving weight further to the rear and lightening the imposed weight. The nose weight should not be confused with any design limitations on carriers or any design limitations on the tow bar itself. My limited understanding is that all vehicles have maximum load weights and that these are normally calculated to be contained within the body of the vehicle and that any weights applied externally such as down force applied to any extension of the chassis/vehicle is extremely limited because any increased force beyond the vehicle manufactures specified limits will have an effect on the vehicle handling.

I now that in the area where I live the police regularly pull up vehicles that have normally overloaded cycle or motorcycle carriers as they see these as quite a hazard. That's in addition to infringements caused obscured number plates or lighting deficiencies. Some forces are really hot on such matters others only tend to go to town when a problem arises such as a RTC.

These carriers can be quite useful as long as you are aware of their limitations and use them within the design limitations of the carrier and the vehicle design limitations. The recommended nose weight imposed on any tow hitch will be in your vehicle handbook as will the maximum recommended weigh that should be imposed on a roof rack which is another matter that many motorists seem to disregard.

 

[Paul 600]

8X57, You are right about nose weights.

 

[Miles]

Hi
You should look at the Heck Pack Game transporter from JMS Arms. I have one and shoot Fallow. You might also think of purchasing a "stalkers mate" from keith's highseats, you can then hoist the carcass and then swing it on the back if you don't fancy dragging onto to the Heck Pack. I have done all this and it's perfect. both are very good bits of kit.

 

[jamross65]

Contact Mereside on here. Wayne is in the process of making his own. If the high seats he makes are anything to go by I would guess his game carriers will be as good or better than anything else out there. And cheaper....

 

[Yorkie]

Swillington Shooting Supplies have these 'Stag Racks' in stock.

Yorkie.