Tow bar game basket?
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Paul o'
Thule already do something like you suggested.
https://www.thule.com/en-gb/gb/cargo-carrier/towbar-cargo-carriers
Sam
Thule already do something like you suggested.
https://www.thule.com/en-gb/gb/cargo-carrier/towbar-cargo-carriers
Sam
Monkey Spanker
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I personally think this is an awful way to transport carcasses! The amount of crap and spray kicked up by the back wheels badly contaminates the carcasses, especially if they have been field gralloched. You might as well just drag them behind the vehicle on a rope!
What about Exhaust gasses??!!
Get a decent covered box or a covered trailer and treat the carcass with some respect, as well as doing your best to comply with basic food hygiene regulations.
If you used this on a DSC 2 stalk to recover the deer I would have issues signing off PC 4.2:
[TD="width: 50%"] 4.2 Transport carcass in a hygienic manner to maintain its quality.
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[TD="width: 50%"] ***Retrieval/transport route chosen is realistic and safe. Method suitable, safe and hygienic.
Carcass and waste transported in suitable containers as appropriate. Damage or contamination to carcass minimised en route.
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MS
What about Exhaust gasses??!!
Get a decent covered box or a covered trailer and treat the carcass with some respect, as well as doing your best to comply with basic food hygiene regulations.
If you used this on a DSC 2 stalk to recover the deer I would have issues signing off PC 4.2:
[TD="width: 50%"] 4.2 Transport carcass in a hygienic manner to maintain its quality.
[/TD]
[TD="width: 50%"] ***Retrieval/transport route chosen is realistic and safe. Method suitable, safe and hygienic.
Carcass and waste transported in suitable containers as appropriate. Damage or contamination to carcass minimised en route.
[/TD]
MS
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Bavarianbrit
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They were originally envisioned as taking the carcass from the revier to the jaegers hunting quarters, mostly never more than 3-4kms in germany I think the german hunters would baulk at doing 50-100 miles showing off a dead beast to all and sundry as it shows no respect to the beast plus a hygene no no.
I'm,pretty sure anyone half decent with a welder & a grinder & measuring tape could knock something up that could be line in plastic or take a tub ,
Be sealed from outer environment & take away contamination issues .
And also the obvious distressing of Joe public seeing a carcass on the back of a motor .
Something that can take a beast or two throw in some cool box blocks to help cooling & something that doesn't leak blood everywhere .
Frees up back of the motor for dog & gear and less likely to get tick in the motor .
Paul
Be sealed from outer environment & take away contamination issues .
And also the obvious distressing of Joe public seeing a carcass on the back of a motor .
Something that can take a beast or two throw in some cool box blocks to help cooling & something that doesn't leak blood everywhere .
Frees up back of the motor for dog & gear and less likely to get tick in the motor .
Paul
A tarpaulin manufacturer like Montrose rope & sail could make a great cover for one of these to prevent all this supposed contamination.
Never realized you was the second in command to his posts! When is says "Where can I get one like that"
Which is a wire basket with a tub in it!
If you want a wire basket with a plastic liner then go to Tesco's
As you have all the answers get the mig out.....then it will be right all round...
Tim.243
Dear Tim Girly gun,
, I have never been 2IC to anyone, & MIG's are for one armed welders, I prefer a decent 600amp Lincoln burning stick, anyway back to your comment "Crap picture" Not!.
Dear Tim Girly gun,
The devil is always in the detail..............dig out some 2.5 6013's and wind it in (the set) lol
Tim.243
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Monkey Spanker
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As well as the obvious contamination issues with such carriers, you also need to look at your vehicle limitations! Most SUV's have a tow ball weight of around 75kg which is a vertical weight limit. Although this sounds a lot, it actually isn't when you consider the moment arm forces involved. The longer the moment arm is, the more load will be applied to the joint axis through leverage. So in effect, a couple of carcasses weighing less than 75kg, but out on an arm, can easily exceed the weight rating of your towbar!! Add to that, the shock load forces of driving over rough terrain.
Not looking such a good design now is it?
MS
Not looking such a good design now is it?
MS
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The contamination issues should be solvable, either cheaply or elegantly.
This one, for example, is on sale on eBay at the moment:
This one, for example, is on sale on eBay at the moment:
I do get the issues about dynamic loading - hence the concerns about the 100kg weights being specified by manufacturers. Also would need a good tight cover to ensure proper hygiene, and to save scaring the public.
With all the salt on the roads here at the moment and a V8 diesel exhaust the carcase could be brined and smoked after just a few miles - might be on to something there though!
Definitely needs a think through, but have to admit if done right it could open up the options a bit on vehicle choice. Though not sure that the saving on storage space over the flexibility of a trailer is worth the aggro. Will ponder further.
With all the salt on the roads here at the moment and a V8 diesel exhaust the carcase could be brined and smoked after just a few miles - might be on to something there though!
Definitely needs a think through, but have to admit if done right it could open up the options a bit on vehicle choice. Though not sure that the saving on storage space over the flexibility of a trailer is worth the aggro. Will ponder further.
+1 It's not all about being able to produce a strong weld. The design has to avoid bending stresses. It needs to be attached somewhere underneath, forward of the ball hitch, so ground clearance might be compromised. Comments have suggested that it is solely attached to a ball hitch. A normal car-type towing bracket would be ripped or twisted in a very short distance over undulating/bumpy ground if it was.
I may have got it wrong but the nose weight limit of around 75kg is a static loading maximum...which presumably takes into account that you may have a trailer weighing a couple of tonnes swinging about and putting all sorts of dynamic loads onto it...certainly a lot more than a few carcasses at half a metre away.
If you can deal with the clamp onto the ball without damage successfully, strength of the tow bar should not come into it I would not have thought.
Alan
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