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Would something like this work ? QMP ToolSafe Extra Large Van Box | Van Boxes | Safe.co.uk
That's getting there but still too high and deep.
That's getting there but still too high and deep.
Swedish
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The last person you would ask quite honestly, stick it in the boot or in the back in a slip or case with a coat over it, keep the bolt with you and the ammo elsewhere, stop overthinking it
Firearm certificate conditions
Condition 4 (a)“The firearms and ammunition to which the certificate relates must at all times (except in the circumstances set out in paragraph (b) below) be stored securely so as to prevent, so far as is reasonably practicable, access to the firearms or ammunition by an unauthorised person; ”
Condition 4 (b)
“Where a firearm or ammunition to which the certificate relates is in use or the holder of the certificate has the firearm with him for the purpose of cleaning, repairing or testing it or for some other purpose connected with its use, transfer or sale, or the firearm or ammunition is in transit to or from a place in connection with its use or any such purpose, reasonable precautions must be taken for the safe custody of the firearm or the ammunition.”
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Swedish
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So what? Familiarise yourself with the legislation and take reasonable precautions as prescribed in government guidance, it really isn't a big issue, how long have you held an FAC?
So how do you secure those airguns? I should think they're pretty nickable, with all their accessories. If they haven't been stolen yet then what you're already doing is presumably ok.
Cable lock trough the action is all you really need , carry the bolt on your belt ! Its not a good idea to leave a firearm in the transport overnight anyhow
Similar principle, remove one of the bolts holding front seat runner to body & then refit with an old engine lifting eye added. This’ll give you a steel ring that you can pass a nylon coated bike lock cable through, pass the cable either through the mag well or bolt way in the back of the receiver & lock up. A drag bag type case is best for this as it has a zip that opens both ways so can easily be closed up to where the cable goes in. Bag lies in the rear footwell out of immediate sight & can readily be covered with a coat etc. to further disguise it if anyone peers through the windows.
There's quite a few of us on here who camp out when stalking.
Rifle locked in vehicle overnight is pretty standard.
enfieldspares
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I used to get the "ab dabs" at one of the syndicates where I used to shoot pheasants. The day started with a pub breakfast and ended with a pork roast in the same pub. There's pretty much a "uniform" almost folk where here when game shooting and that and dogs in the vehicles all screamed out that we were people that had guns. The cars were parked on a public road or the village car park about seventy five yards away. So that's where the locked American ammunitio box and chains saw they debut.
A car on its own is fairly safe just as, from a predator, is a single fish in a large shoal of fish. But a collection of cars belonging obviously to shooters regularly at the same pub every other Wednesday is more easily identifiable. Down the road from me at a local clay ground they've had two guns in the last decade stole from cars. So oddly where you are part of a number what is obviously a shooting party I think the greater the security is advisable. The fish analogy is the one to consider.
A car on its own is fairly safe just as, from a predator, is a single fish in a large shoal of fish. But a collection of cars belonging obviously to shooters regularly at the same pub every other Wednesday is more easily identifiable. Down the road from me at a local clay ground they've had two guns in the last decade stole from cars. So oddly where you are part of a number what is obviously a shooting party I think the greater the security is advisable. The fish analogy is the one to consider.
In my old defender 90 I have a 3 gun shotgun cabinet bolted to the rear bulkhead. It hold two rifles happily in slips. If the rifles have bolts then they stay open my belt. Often on my permission I am doing jobs on the ground before or after the Stalk. being an old car, its about as secure as a teabag is waterproof, hence the extra security.
I used to have an ex AA T4 VW van with a 3/4 width 'rock n roll ' bed. My better half made a bench to fill the space to the side of it with a false floor and access via a locked panel at the end. It could hold 3 shotguns plus Amma and was used when I went away up to Scotland for a few days wildfowling. lock was disguise as a power socket.
I used to have an ex AA T4 VW van with a 3/4 width 'rock n roll ' bed. My better half made a bench to fill the space to the side of it with a false floor and access via a locked panel at the end. It could hold 3 shotguns plus Amma and was used when I went away up to Scotland for a few days wildfowling. lock was disguise as a power socket.
Dunwaters
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How many times were you targeted?
enfieldspares
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At the pub used by the shoot how would you know? If people walk by trying door handles unless you have active video surveillance how do you know? What is certain is that the cars at that not too distant clay ground - Kibworth Shooting Ground - were actively targeted because they were clearly "shooters' cars" and two cars were broken into and two guns were stolen. As has happened at other grounds elsewhere.
My FEO didn't like this concept at all and thought a firearm should never be left in an unattended vehicle. I pointed out that the DSC1 teaches that if you have to leave a vehicle unattended then you should take reasonable steps such as taking bolt (and I think ammo and magazine) with you and ideally also securing the rifle to the vehicle such as a cable through the action, also if possible try to keep the vehicle in view.
My FEO/FLD also seem to take the line that if they 'advise' something (even if this goes beyond the law or standard practice) and you don't do it, they will view it as non-compliance and threaten to revoke.
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